Video technology

[Nachos]

Now that the whole world has seen a game of such huge magnitude decided by an incident that could have been cleared up within seconds, surely they now have to step out of the dark ages and introduce it? Its absolutely staggering that a major global sport like football, with so many cameras recording every single moment, still has these grey areas, which only puts more and more pressure on officials to be absolutely perfect.

Edited November 20, 2009 by Nachos

[Flasher]

Now that the whole world has seen a game of such huge magnitude decided by an incident that could have been cleared up within seconds, surely they now have to step out of the dark ages and introduce it? Its absolutely staggering that a major global sport like football, with so many cameras recording every single moment, still has these grey areas, which only puts more and more pressure on officials to be absolutely perfect.

 

 

I'd like to see a red flashing light and hear a buzzer when the ball crosses the goal line, just like in ice hockey

[fyds]

..while at the same time giving UEFA and FIFA a chance to make sure the 'right' people qualify.

[sean]

I'd like to see a red flashing light on the telly just as Roy Keane's about to spout.

[Paddy 66]

Now that the whole world has seen a game of such huge magnitude decided by an incident that could have been cleared up within seconds, surely they now have to step out of the dark ages and introduce it? Its absolutely staggering that a major global sport like football, with so many cameras recording every single moment, still has these grey areas, which only puts more and more pressure on officials to be absolutely perfect.

I hope they don't, this type of thing has always happened and it is part and parcel of the game. Football is a passionate game and part of that is talking/ranting about bad decisions etc, the game has been tampered with enough over the past few years with the tackle being virtually outlawed and cards given out far to freely. All to enhance the 'beautiful game', it has made the game more sterile, adding video technology would just been another act of taking the passion out of it.

 

In addition to this, we have seen in other sports that video technology doesn't always give a conclusive answer, I say leave it to the officials, they will make mistakes but hey so do footballers who are paid a hell of a lot more, it all adds to what makes football such a fantastic game.

[Gunga Din]

Now that the whole world has seen a game of such huge magnitude decided by an incident that could have been cleared up within seconds, surely they now have to step out of the dark ages and introduce it? Its absolutely staggering that a major global sport like football, with so many cameras recording every single moment, still has these grey areas, which only puts more and more pressure on officials to be absolutely perfect.

 

 

how many times has there been a shout for a pen, or an offside, or whether a ball has crossed the line, or whether someone has dived, and you see a squillion different replays from twelvety different angles and you still cant decide what the decision should be. football isnt like tennis or cricket, where Hawkeye can determine the the ball will land, or rugby, where the only contention is if the ball goes over a line or whatever, football is a lot more fluid, and video tecnology, IMO, will cause more problems than it will solve.

 

I dontthink it would be a bad idea to have someone sitting watching on a monitor where they can see the game and correct any glaringly obvious mistakes, but the danger is the ref becomes so terrified of making a decision, everything gets referred and the game becomes stop start. you only have to look at the run out decisions in cricket that get referred. practically every single decision is now referred to the third umpire

[ManxRed]

I'd like to see 50,000V applied to Drogba's gonads every time he goes over without any significant contact from an opposing player, with the charge rising to 100,000v if he writhes around for more than two seconds, but its not going to happen. Not in my lifetime anyway.

[Nachos]

I agree that using it for every single incident will cause too much disruption, but at least give the officials the option of using it for goal line and penalty box incidents that lead to goals and determine the outcome of important games. If theres enough doubt in their minds they can do a quick referal and get it cleared up. And if it turns out to be inconclusive even with the replay then the original decision stands.

Edited November 20, 2009 by Nachos

[floyd the barber]

id honetly like to see an appeal system, if the captain or manager want to dispute a certain moment in the match.........the 4th official is informed, then advises the referee..play is stopped while the 4th off and ref look at a monitor on the side of the pitch...

 

Each team would get one appeal......if the appeal is seen as valid, then you get your one appeal back.

 

I also think it should only be used in one off games...

[Nachos]

Yeah, I like the appeal idea. One per team.

[Buzz]

Yeah, I like the appeal idea. One per team.

Good idea, but don't you think if it should be 3 appeals per match, like in Tennis? When palying Mancs or Bolton you'd need triple that per game!!

[Paddy 66]

id honetly like to see an appeal system, if the captain or manager want to dispute a certain moment in the match.........the 4th official is informed, then advises the referee..play is stopped while the 4th off and ref look at a monitor on the side of the pitch...

 

Each team would get one appeal......if the appeal is seen as valid, then you get your one appeal back.

 

I also think it should only be used in one off games...

I totally disagree with this idea, it would slow the game up and as has already been said video evidence can be inconclusive and just puts more pressure on the officials.

[Paddy T.]

Just carrying on this idea:

 

For example, after a penalty decision they always need at least one minute to shake off protests anyway. So why not ask the video ref what he thinks while the teams are still whining. And if the decision isnt really clear, why not get three officials like in Boxing and basically vote. 2 against 1 wins...

Its all a bit over the top though to have to employ three more officials, in my opinion, but it thought I'd join in...

[Kite]

The way it works in rugby with the ref declaring he was unsighted and therefore referring to the video ref, I can't see why that can't work for football too. The idea that it would slow the game down is a nonsense. (Having a bunch of Manc c**** surround the ref for five minutes every time they don't like a decision "slows down play" already)

[floyd the barber]

I totally disagree with this idea, it would slow the game up and as has already been said video evidence can be inconclusive and just puts more pressure on the officials.

 

dont see it as slowing the game down that much......i couldnt see it being any more than a 5minute delay and really ...with so much money involved, dont teams deserve this?....

 

now over a season it does even itself out.....you`ll always see the best teams at the top and worst at the bottom....but for those important one off games, i think this must happen

 

The france - ireland game was the pefect example......and whats gonna happen now?? a witch hunt against henry..a player with an impecable record and a great attitude, yet more than likely will go down in history for this.....i cant blame the guy, it was the natural thing to do when the ball is coming to you at such a pace...

I also dont blame any official.....when you look at the indicident at full speed from the refs position it looks like henry scooped the ball back across......also the linesmans view was blocked, yet they will all be lynched over it(and already have) and thats not fair on them...

[Ramón Benítez Hernández]

..while at the same time giving UEFA and FIFA a chance to make sure the 'right' people qualify.

 

 

That should be the main issue here, not the hand ball. It's blatantly obvious that FIFA and UEFA make sure the 'right' people qualify.

 

Should we replay the 2001 FA Cup final too because of Henchoz' antics?

Edited November 21, 2009 by B.A.Baracus

[mathewbet1]

Give the ref a small tablet pc, with replays on demand.

[Ramón Benítez Hernández]

Give the ref a small tablet pc, with replays on demand.

 

 

They'll need two tablets, five rules on each.

[New York Red]

Yes. Absolutely they should introduce it. One challenge per half. A yellow card for every challenge beyond that. For the team.

[John am Rhein]

football is a lot more fluid, and video tecnology, IMO, will cause more problems than it will solve.

 

exactly right, IMO

 

I reckon it's an experiment that will be tried and will fail.

[John am Rhein]

One challenge per half. A yellow card for every challenge beyond that. For the team.

 

That would rapidly descend into a more farcical situation than we already have

[John am Rhein]

Give the ref a small tablet pc, with replays on demand.

 

No, an iPhone

[Davvo]

No, an iPhone

 

The ref'd never get a good enough signal in Burnley.

 

Challenges AND the ref admitting to being unsighted are the only answer. A video ref could have the correct answer almost before the ref/coach had asked for it if they're on the ball enough, certainly for the likes of hand ball decisions. Diving, ball over line, foul in penalty area may take slightly longer, but no longer than it takes to get a ball back in play at a goal kick/corner etc. You could even allow the video ref to overrule.

 

The Henry incident for instance, the video ref could have called handball in the ref's ear almost before he's pointed to the centre spot. I think people are overcomplicating it, presumably based on the time it often takes in Rugby, where you have a mass of players often hiding the ball from view of one or more cameras. There are very few controversial decisions in football that can't be solved on camera quickly, the Garcia goal being one such exception, but if a camera angle can't overrule a ref then the ref's decision sticks.

[Andy @ Allerton]

Now that the whole world has seen a game of such huge magnitude decided by an incident that could have been cleared up within seconds, surely they now have to step out of the dark ages and introduce it? Its absolutely staggering that a major global sport like football, with so many cameras recording every single moment, still has these grey areas, which only puts more and more pressure on officials to be absolutely perfect.

 

 

Stop crying. Ireland are out. Just face facts. Your strikers were gash.

[Paddy 66]

dont see it as slowing the game down that much......i couldnt see it being any more than a 5minute delay and really ...with so much money involved, dont teams deserve this?....

 

now over a season it does even itself out.....you`ll always see the best teams at the top and worst at the bottom....but for those important one off games, i think this must happen

 

The france - ireland game was the pefect example......and whats gonna happen now?? a witch hunt against henry..a player with an impecable record and a great attitude, yet more than likely will go down in history for this.....i cant blame the guy, it was the natural thing to do when the ball is coming to you at such a pace...

I also dont blame any official.....when you look at the indicident at full speed from the refs position it looks like henry scooped the ball back across......also the linesmans view was blocked, yet they will all be lynched over it(and already have) and thats not fair on them...

It should have bog all to do with money but whats best for the game and stop starting a game isn't the way forward. If you want to talk about money, how are the lower leagues going to afford the equipment, as alot of them are on the financial precipice or is it only for those who can afford it?

 

Video technology will not be the saviour of the game some seem to believe, in fact I believe it will further damage the game, if you want appeals, vieo technology etc go and watch another sport.