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By now you all should have seen it, personally I dont like it one bit.

 

Ant came up with this idea a while back and has posted it on TLW, basically it's 96 Liver Birds perched on the roof looking onto the pitch.

 

Someone on TLW came up with this pic as an idea of what it could look like.

 

 

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Thought the proposed statue had been binned?

 

Not so sure, I dont think the funding has been agreed. But in all honesty I dont want nothing to do with that statue so I skip the articles associated with it.

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He probably cant remember who you are?

 

 

I know who he is and I know what he wants?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A f*cking good shoeing.... :angry:

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what statue ?

 

It was awful i thought. A really graphic sculpture of hillsborough. More of a memory than a memorial.

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I think as a piece of art it's pretty amazing. If you saw it in a gallery you'd think "wow, he really captured an element of what happened on the day" but it's not a memorial, it's completely inappropriate for that purpose. Ant's suggestion is simple but powerful. Each bird could have a personal touch added by the families before they went up.

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I can understand why some people might be upset by the statue as it is quite powerful and challenging - but then what's wrong with that? People sometimes need reminding that 96 people were actually killed horribly - flames and liver birds provide rememberance of their lives but do not reflect the suffering.

 

It's obviously an emotive issue, but I think this statue would have been an interesting alternative to what's already out there.

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hillsb11.jpg

 

I think as a piece of art it's pretty amazing. If you saw it in a gallery you'd think "wow, he really captured an element of what happened on the day" but it's not a memorial, it's completely inappropriate for that purpose. Ant's suggestion is simple but powerful. Each bird could have a personal touch added by the families before they went up.

That is a really stunning piece of art. Only the families affected could say if it's appropriate as a memorial or not, but as a sculpture I think its quite moving.

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I can understand why some people might be upset by the statue as it is quite powerful and challenging - but then what's wrong with that? People sometimes need reminding that 96 people were actually killed horribly - flames and liver birds provide rememberance of their lives but do not reflect the suffering.

 

It's obviously an emotive issue, but I think this statue would have been an interesting alternative to what's already out there.

 

I think this is pretty close to my reaction to the statue. I've only just seen it though and may need to reflect on it over time.

Liverbirds up on the roof don't really say enough for me.

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A planned memorial to the survivors of the Hillsborough Disaster has triggered a huge row with allegations that its design is "insensitive" and "sickening".

 

As a model of what would be a 15 foot-high sculpture went on public display at a hotel in the city there were calls for it to be consigned to the dustbin.

 

Internet forums were innundated with messages from Reds' supporters expressing shock and disgust at the sculptor's graphic depiction of the events of 15th April 1989.

 

Survivors and relatives of those who died slammed the statue, designed by Merseyside sculptor Tony Evans, as "wholly inappropriate" and "horrific".

 

A plans to include the names of the 96 supporters who lost their lives at the FA Cup Semi-Final in Sheffield, were dropped after official objections from relatives of three victims.

 

The plan for the memorial began last year and is said to have been fostered by last year's Lord Mayor of Liverpool Steve Rotheram.

 

The idea of a memorial to the survivors also won the backing of the Hillsborough Family Support Group (HFSG).

 

But after the furore over the design prompted leaders of the HFSG to withdraw their support for the scheme.

 

Anne Williams' son Kevin was one of the 96 Liverpool supporters who lost their lives on the Leppings Lane terrace.

 

She said: "It's a monstrosity. When I first saw it I felt sick. It's very upsetting and I will not allow Kevin's name to be included on the base.

 

"Survivors live Hillsborough every day and I think it will set a lot of survivors back mentally.

 

"The feedback I've had is really upsetting. One told me that he would personally take action tear it down if he had to walk past it every day."

 

Margaret Aspinall, Chairwoman of the Hillsborough Family Support Group, said she and other members of the group had received abusive phone after images of the design started to circulate via e-mail.

 

Mrs Aspinall said: "We only saw this two weeks ago. It is a memorial we didn't even ask for.

 

"We already have a one at Anfield which has stood for nearly 20 years, but we had agreed in principle to underwrite it for the good of the people who survived Hillsborough.

 

"Since the pictures were leaked we have withdrawn from the project after grieving families were inundated with abuse from some cowardly individuals.

 

"It's sad that it's caused all this uproar. The people involved have done this for what they thought were the right reasons.

 

"I don't blame the people of Merseyside who have championed the fight for justice for the past 20 years. Unfortunately a certain element has jumped on the bandwagon to cause a great rift on Merseyside.

 

"There are no winners with Hillsborough, just bereaved families and survivors who have gone through hell."

 

Artist Tony Evans was confronted by an angry Liverpool fan after put the "maquette" of the statue on display at the Hard Day's Night Hotel in the city.

 

The man asked Evans whether he was at Hillsborough in 1989 and the artist said he was not.

 

The man, aged about 55, said: "I was there and this is too graphic. It brings back too many emotions.

 

"If I was a father and my son had died at the match I think it would be far too much for me to take.

 

Following the incident, Mr Evans told ClickLiverpool: "I was approached by representatives from Liverpool City Council to creat a memorial for the Hillsborough disaster.

 

"I was given images of the day as well as a jumble of ideas. People who have seen it are in favour of it.

 

"I don't want to get involved in the politics of it all but it is a striking image of Hillsborough which is meant to give a positive point of view. Creating a sculpture of trumpets and angels would not have been appropriate.

 

"It was never meant to be offensive or insensitive. It is supposed to represent Liverpool people helping each other through a terrible situation. Between 12 and 15 people who were there that day have given it their approval."

 

However a Liverpool city council spokesman said: "The City Council did not commission this sculpture.

 

"There were discussions with the Lord Mayor last year about the possibilty of a permanent memorial to the victims of Hillsborough.

 

"This artist has then, at his own cost and own risk, produced this concept for a memorial.

 

"It is our understanding that the reason for it being placed on display was to generate discussion and opinion of the piece.

 

"We have been kept informed of the artists' progress but we do not currently have a budget for any such memorial."

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Theres a piece in the Echo today about it.

 

Personally I really like it but it seems its been misunderstood and to be fair you can see why.

 

You have to defer to what the families think as after all the "subject matter" is the death of their loved ones.

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