smithdown Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 SSN showing back pages going big on Mascherano to Barca sh*tbags
Sion Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 meh. if we get a decent price which i'm sure we would then can't say i'm too bothered
Barnesy_10 Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Looks like Yaya Toure could go to City so guess that's why they will be in for him... Losing him doesn't scare me as much as it would have two seasons back. I just wish we still had Xabi.
Gerrardrules Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Looks like Yaya Toure could go to City so guess that's why they will be in for him... Losing him doesn't scare me as much as it would have two seasons back. I just wish we still had Xabi. It still hurts that Xabi's gone. He was one of us.
Red Kent Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 I will be surprised if he is still here at the end of January.
Dan Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 IF Rafa gets the full £30M to reinvest then snap their hands off
Red Kent Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 IF Rafa gets the full £30M to reinvest then snap their hands off Dont hold your breath.
Dan Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Dont hold your breath. I'm not. I'm imagining some parallel universe.
Red Kent Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 I'm not. I'm imagining some parallel universe. Any room in there ?
Dan Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Any room in there ? Not really, it's full of liverpool fans celebrating the appointment of mourinho thinking we're winning the league
Andy @ Allerton Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 If Masch wants to go - and that goes for all the players - then tough. You can't keep players that don't want to stay. IF we get money for him and IF the stupid w***** owners let our Manager spend any of it then it won't be too bad. If they don't let Rafa spend the £35M+£20M+£20M (less the £5M for Aquilani and less the £7M for Johnson) then I'll be well pissed off.
Tommy Cockles Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 hugely overrated. accept anything around what we (absurdly) paid
Gunga Din Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 hugely overrated. accept anything around what we (absurdly) paid i think he is massively over rated as well. is usefull in half a dozen games a year, and to be honest, over the last 12 months, Lucas has been better for us than Mascherano
Falconhoof Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Thought it was just me. I think people are a little blinded to his actual performances by the reputation of the player.We'd be better off with a consistent, more rounded midfielder than an occasional world class defensive midfielder.
AE Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 IF it was around the £30 mil then we would be stupid to turn it down with the current situation......Hick's house needs a refurb and Gillett wants a couple of more cars. A bit of the money could also go to sorting out some debt on a baseball club and a track (car) team.
Gunga Din Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 if we do get £30mil for him, it will bring the yanks total net spend to £0.00
kop205 Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 hugely overrated. accept anything around what we (absurdly) paid It was hardly an 'absurd' fee in the context of what the going rate seems to be for a midfielder these days and when he was paired with Alonso there were very few complaints about him (although I know some still questioned the need for him at home, for example). The problem is that him and Lucas just isn't a partnership and - certainly long term - they shouldn't both be in the same starting 11. I've been a vocal supporter of Lucas in the other thread and his form has certainly been taking the opposite trajectory to Macherano's over the last year. When Mascherano is showing the 100% passion that he showed when he first arrived then there is still a role for him provided the balance around him is right and I'd like to see him alongside Aquilani before writing him off totally. Given that Aquilani is likely to play further forward than Alonso did, I can see how Mascherano could still be a very useful asset to have. The biggest problem is that for a variety of reasons the fire has seemed to have gone from his belly a bit (albeit it with signs in a few recent games that it might be back). When that is missing then he is always likely to look very ordinary. If - due to his head being turned by Barca - it has gone for good then he doesn't really have much to contribute. I just think it is a bit simplistic to say that he is 'hugely overrated' or that we should be glad to get what we paid for him.
Billy Dane Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 If we sell him, he will instantly become the world's finest defensive midfielder. What were they thinking. selling Argentina's captain blah blah blah
Rimbeux Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 he's not been great in the last 12 months, but lets not forget that he is a top draw player at his best. Watching him play, it seems like he's trying or otherwise to change his game and role from the all action DM into more of a playmaker; runs a lot less, passes a lot more, not necessarily the best use of his abilities
Dule Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 If he was playing for united, and Ferguson sold him, it would be an inspired bit of business, no?
AE Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) If he was playing for united, and Ferguson sold him, it would be an inspired bit of business, no? We all know the football press are a bunch of ****s so there is no point worrying about it anymore.Rafa doesn't play their game so they work against him. The sheep follow. Edited November 15, 2009 by AE
D.Boon Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 With the prospect of Aquilani being much more forward thinking and sitting higher up the park than Alonso i think it would be a terrible move.
Dan Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 With the prospect of Aquilani being much more forward thinking and sitting higher up the park than Alonso i think it would be a terrible move. Depends who we replace him with
D.Boon Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 Depends who we replace him with Given the free spending history of the owners this is why i think it would be a terrible move.
NWR Posted November 15, 2009 Posted November 15, 2009 If Masch wants to go - and that goes for all the players - then tough. You can't keep players that don't want to stay. IF we get money for him and IF the stupid w***** owners let our Manager spend any of it then it won't be too bad. If they don't let Rafa spend the £35M+£20M+£20M (less the £5M for Aquilani and less the £7M for Johnson) then I'll be well pissed off. What does that mean?
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