Champions league question

[Dan]

If we beat Lyon and Debrecen and need to win by 3 against Fiorentina what happens if we win 2-0 i.e. the same scoreline they beat us?

 

Goal difference?

[john_lfc]

Well if we need to win by 3 and dont score three then obviously we dont go through?

[richwilks]

Apparently one bookmaker has us at 9/1 favorties to win the Europa League this season.

 

Humerous c****.

[Toni]

Apparently one bookmaker has us at 9/1 favorties to win the Europa League this season.

 

Humerous c****.

 

I too have that feeling...2005 all over again...olympiakos et all...

 

if we managed to win it with biscan, traore, baros etc, we can surely win it with aquilani, johnson and torres etc

 

C'MON U REDS!

[Flasher]

I think we'll win the Europa Cup

[Tosh]

I too have that feeling...2005 all over again...olympiakos et all...

 

if we managed to win it with biscan, traore, baros etc, we can surely win it with aquilani, johnson and torres ON THE TREAMENT TABLE etc

 

C'MON U REDS!

 

Fixed that for you

[Dan]

Well if we need to win by 3 and dont score three then obviously we dont go through?

 

The 3-0 is to be better in the head to head.

 

What if the head to head is exactly the same?

[john_lfc]

Must be goal difference yeah.

[Gilps]

The 3-0 is to be better in the head to head.

 

What if the head to head is exactly the same?

 

If the head to head record is identical, it goes to overall GD in the group. If they still can't be seperated it goes to coefficient points, so we'd be laughing

 

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/standings/index.html

Edited November 2, 2009 by Gilps

[Dan]

If the head to head record is identical, it goes to overall GD in the group. If they still can't be seperated it goes to coefficient points, so we'd be laughing

 

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/standings/index.html

 

We need to batter Debrecen then

[Gilps]

We need to batter Debrecen then

 

Aye. Assuming it's not all academic by the end of wednesday's game of course.

[Dan]

Aye. Assuming it's not all academic by the end of wednesday's game of course.

 

Yep.

 

Also the worrying thing would be if Fiorentina scored at Anfield we'd then need 4.

[Sion]

Say we win our 3 games, they only way the scoreline in the third game matters is if Fiorentina beat Lyon isn't it?

 

Because if we win 3 we'll be on 12. Fiorentina will be on either 9 or 10 depending on whether they've lost or drawn, 12 only if they win

 

So hypothetically we could afford a draw away at Lyon, IF Lyon win away at Fiorentina.

 

So then it'd be (assuming all beat Debrecen)

 

Lyon 16

Liverpool 10

Fiorentina 9

Edited November 2, 2009 by Sion

[Billy Talbot]

Say we win our 3 games, they only way the scoreline in the third game matters is if Fiorentina beat Lyon isn't it?

 

Because if we win 3 we'll be on 12. Fiorentina will be on either 9 or 10 depending on whether they've lost or drawn, 12 only if they win

 

So hypothetically we could afford a draw away at Lyon, IF Lyon win away at Fiorentina.

 

So then it'd be (assuming all beat Debrecen)

 

Lyon 16

Liverpool 10

Fiorentina 9

 

 

So... We could lose against Lyon and still go through if Fiorentina lose at home to Lyon and we beat Fiorentina by the required amount of goals.

 

And if Debrecen were to get a freak result against Fiorentina...

[richwilks]

We could also go through if all the other teams in our group have crowd trouble during the games and they get kicked out of the competition.

[Billy Talbot]

We could also go through if all the other teams in our group have crowd trouble during the games and they get kicked out of the competition.

 

 

Good one. So it's possible we'll go through with 3 points.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

one game at a time & all that

[Red Kent]

Can't really see nothing but a comfortable win for Lyon, especially with all our injuries.

[Des]

Cheer up Kev.

[Red Kent]

Cheer up Kev.

 

Just being realistic. Lyon are a very very good team. I think we are going to have to take this on the chin.

[Des]

Just being realistic. Lyon are a very very good team. I think we are going to have to take this on the chin.

 

Did you expect us to beat the Mancs without Gerrard?

[Red Kent]

Did you expect us to beat the Mancs without Gerrard?

 

Not really know, but you should know me by now. I dont expect us to beat a bunch of a grannies

[allez les rouges]

Can't really see nothing but a comfortable win for Lyon, especially with all our injuries.

i thought when lyon beat us, they were average. We were very poor on the night. A good performance by us, and we will win

[Jarg Armani]

i thought when lyon beat us, they were average. We were very poor on the night. A good performance by us, and we will win

 

agree. same at fulham, villa and tottenham though. the players need to start believing they're boss for 90 minutes. if he takes torres off so f***ing what. babies.

[Red Kent]

i thought when lyon beat us, they were average. We were very poor on the night. A good performance by us, and we will win

 

i thought the atmosphere in the home game was poor. There was definately a 'fear' in the air that night.