David Hodgson Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Call me a conspiracy theorist, but something doesn't ring true about Masch's absence this weekend. Funny that he's stillnot back and being 'treated' over in Argentina. I reckons that Rafa has done a deal with him to allow him to spend extra time in Argentina with his missus and family. The international break presented a perfect opportunity for Masch to get a really extended time at home, given we didn't really need him for Burnley. Maybe I'm fantasising but it's plausible that this kind of deal could have been struck in trying to persuade Mascherano to stay another year.
Benzo-13 Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Call me a conspiracy theorist, but something doesn't ring true about Masch's absence this weekend. Funny that he's stillnot back and being 'treated' over in Argentina. I reckons that Rafa has done a deal with him to allow him to spend extra time in Argentina with his missus and family. The international break presented a perfect opportunity for Masch to get a really extended time at home, given we didn't really need him for Burnley. Maybe I'm fantasising but it's plausible that this kind of deal could have been struck in trying to persuade Mascherano to stay another year. Think its Masch's last year here myself so could be well true.
Rory Fitzgerald Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Interesting but very risky, we are short in the midfield dept.
Damian_de Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Could well be that Rafa thought Burnley at home with CL midweek would be the perfect opportunity to let him have a little bit of home time.
Mr. Biscan Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 I don't honestly know, Rafa doesn't strike me to be the sort of person to allow such deals to happen. I mean look what happened when Alonso became a father!
Hassony Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 I don't honestly know, Rafa doesn't strike me to be the sort of person to allow such deals to happen. I mean look what happened when Alonso became a father! Inter away in the champion league is a bit different to Burnley at home in the league
Mr. Biscan Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Inter away in the champion league is a bit different to Burnley at home in the league When was the last time Rafa let anything of the sort thats what being proposed happen? Regardless of the importance of games?
David Hodgson Posted September 13, 2009 Author Posted September 13, 2009 I don't honestly know, Rafa doesn't strike me to be the sort of person to allow such deals to happen. I mean look what happened when Alonso became a father! Rafa is a pragmatist, and Mascherano seriously wanted to get away. Desparate times call for desperate measures. I thinkRafa would figure he wouldn't want Masch to play against Burnley anyway, given he'd played twice, and would have had to travelback with little time to spare, regardless. It's an easy 'deal' for Rafa to have offered.
Mr. Biscan Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Rafa is a pragmatist, and Mascherano seriously wanted to get away. Desparate times call for desperate measures. I thinkRafa would figure he wouldn't want Masch to play against Burnley anyway, given he'd played twice, and would have had to travelback with little time to spare, regardless. It's an easy 'deal' for Rafa to have offered. True. Just can't see it myself.
Spilly Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Wouldn't be that bothered or surprised if true. Those two WC games and the travelling would have taken a lot out of him and he probably would have sat out Saturday anyway.
BG Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Just can't see it myself. I agree. Creates problems for himself if we had drawn/lost and likely to make things harder amongst the squad too if a player is getting some sort of special privilege. What could be possible IMHO is that Masch has some extenuating family circumstances (e.g. an illness to a parent etc) and this was something Rafa took into account.
GWistooshort Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 From the official site............. On why Javier Mascherano was not in the squad, Benitez revealed the midfielder was still in South America after representing Argentina this week. He explained: "Mascherano was not available. He still hasn't arrived. He is coming back on Sunday. He had some problems, and our doctor was talking to their doctor. "Now I think he's okay but he's coming back later because he had to do some tests over there. "Don't be worried, it's not serious!" http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...090912-1756.htm
GWistooshort Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 According to the Daily Mirror today Barcelona's director of football Txiki Begiristain has said their pursuit of Mascherano (& Fabregas) is "something the club has left for later" & that "Mascherano and Cesc did not come because of financial difficulties. It was impossible to pay the kind of money asked for after the spending of Real Madrid." http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Barce...icle154783.html
Chili Palmer Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 According to the Daily Mirror today Barcelona's director of football Txiki Begiristain has said their pursuit of Mascherano (& Fabregas) is "something the club has left for later" & that "Mascherano and Cesc did not come because of financial difficulties. It was impossible to pay the kind of money asked for after the spending of Real Madrid." http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Barce...icle154783.html I am resigned to the fact that he will go in the summer. such a pity.
Spilly Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 He'll be gone next summer. Can't say I'm that worrried as long as Rafa gets to spend the money.
Chili Palmer Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 He'll be gone next summer. Can't say I'm that worrried as long as Rafa gets to spend the money. I'm worried whenever any one of out top players leaves/wants to leave. Having money does not guarantee getting the right replacement.
CarraLegend Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Cant be anywhere near definite he's off next summer, theres only a few clubs that could afford him and priorities change throughout a season.
Rory Fitzgerald Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I'm not resigned to him leaving. Its World Cup year next year - there will be loads of faces floating about the market.
Case Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I'm not resigned to him leaving. Its World Cup year next year - there will be loads of faces floating about the market. .... which Mascher himself can watch on the telly.
Rimbeux Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Depends on Fabregas and what he wants to do imo. Cannot see them taking both and the Arsenal player is a long term wrong they feel they have to right
GWistooshort Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Rafa Benitez urges Javier Mascherano to rediscover Liverpool FC sparkSep 19 2009 Ian Doyle JAVIER MASCHERANO has been challenged to set aside his World Cup worries and rediscover his spark for Liverpool. Mascherano has struggled for form during the opening weeks of the campaign after a difficult summer in which Barcelona were actively pursuing the midfielder. The 25-year-old’s concentration has been further affected by Argentina’s struggle to reach next summer’s World Cup finals in South Africa. Diego Maradona’s side could miss out after slumping to successive defeats in their qualifiers against Brazil and Paraguay earlier this month, during which Mascherano – who is skipper for his country – sustained a pelvic injury that ruled him out of last week’s 4-0 win over Burnley. And as Liverpool prepare to visit his former club West Ham United this evening, Mascherano has been urged by manager Rafael Benitez to focus his mind solely on Anfield matters. “When you are not winning while playing for a big country like Argentina, you have to be worried,” said Benitez. “But Javier is a player with experience so he will come back, focus his mind and start thinking about Liverpool. “He is the captain so he will be really worried because in Argentina, they live and breathe football, so as captain it will obviously be a worry for him. “But since the first day he arrived here, his commitment has been 100%. “I am watching him in training sessions and he is doing well and working really hard. I was watching him specifically because we were doing some exercises that needed hard work and he was very good in both and today was the same. “The atmosphere in our training sessions is very good now and he is one of the players who is always working so hard that as a manager you have to be pleased.” Reports in Spain suggest Barcelona are preparing a January bid for Mascherano, despite their director of football, Txiki Begiristain, having already been warned off any move by Benitez. And the Liverpool manager has intimated the Argentine, who arrived at the club in January 2007, could be offered a new contract later this season. “Top teams are always interested in signing top-class players,” said Benitez. “It’s normal. But he has a contract and we want to keep him. “I told Txiki Begiristain before that we wanted to keep him and he knows my opinion. “I have told him how important it was for him to come here, and now he is the captain of the Argentina national side thanks to Liverpool. “For us, to have the best from Mascherano is really important if we want to win more games. “He has two more years, but if we need to do it we will talk to him. He has enough time and has to play at the level he has played at before and we will be really pleased with him. We are really pleased with him.” Mascherano made only a fleeting appearance as a late substitute in the midweek Champions League win over Debrecen. And with Lucas Leiva and Steven Gerrard impressing in central midfield in his absence, the Argentine is not guaranteed a starting place at Upton Park. “I am really pleased with the way that the team is playing now but I was also happy with the two games previous,” added Benitez. “All the players know what they have to do on the pitch, so to change one or two of them is not a big difference. If Mascherano is fit he can play but Lucas and Gerrard are doing well as midfielders. “He is a key player for us and he will be a key player for us during the season but he was away and Lucas and Gerrard were playing well so I have to manage this situation. But it is better for me to have these problems.” Along with Mascherano, both Fabio Aurelio and Ryan Babel are pressing for recalls this evening. http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...92534-24726928/
bazz Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Masch only has 2 years left on his contract? Is that right? Because if it is, its shocking that we have allowed that to happen. He is one of our top class players and I thought we were extending all our top players contracts in the summer?
Falconhoof Posted September 19, 2009 Posted September 19, 2009 Masch only has 2 years left on his contract? Is that right? Because if it is, its shocking that we have allowed that to happen. He is one of our top class players and I thought we were extending all our top players contracts in the summer? He wanted to go to Barca in the summer, its not surprising that we didn't extend his contract.
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