Plier ratings

[Cisse]

So we're 2 points better vs last season, same fixtures

 

Reina 7

Johnson 9 MOM

Carta 6

Ayala 6

Insua 7

Kuyt 7

Masch 7

Lucas 7

Benny 7

Gerrard 7

Torres 6

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Burnley win 10

Edited August 19, 2009 by Cisse

[davewigan]

Reina 8

Johnson 9 MOM

Carta 6

Ayala 6

Insua 7

Kuyt 6

Masch 7

Lucas 7

Benny 8

Gerrard 7

Torres 7

[Wilbur]

Reina 8

Johnson 9 MOM

Carta 5

Ayala 5

Insua 7

Kuyt 8

Masch 7

Lucas 8

Benny 8

Gerrard 8 for that touch for the third goal, but 6 prior to that

Torres 7

[Gunga Din]

Reina 7

Johnson 9

Carra 6

Ayala 3

Insua 6

Kuyt 7

Masch 6

Lucas 7

Benny 7

Gerrard 7

Torres 7

[Red Kent]

Reina 7

Johnson 9

Carra 6

Ayala 3

Insua 6

Kuyt 7

Masch 6

Lucas 7

Benny 7

Gerrard 7

Torres 7

 

Ayala 3 !!!!! FFS that's harsh.

[Gunga Din]

Ayala 3 !!!!! FFS that's harsh.

 

its not harsh. anyone else played liked that and he'd get a 3. he looked way out of his depth

[Red Kent]

its not harsh. anyone else played liked that and he'd get a 3. he looked way out of his depth

 

You are a very hard person to please then. I thought he did well and so did Carra and Reina judging by their reactions during and after the game.

[Dule]

but harsh for a 3, id give him a 6 just for effort, it was obvious even before the kickoff that the boy would be out of his depth, did the best that you could expect i felt.

[Gunga Din]

You are a very hard person to please then. I thought he did well and so did Carra and Reina judging by their reactions during and after the game.

 

its called encouragment. he s*** himself every time he had the ball. if you want to give him 6 then fine, i'm not really arsed. i thought he looked woeful. but there you go

[Hassony]

I wouldn't argue with big wayne, he called itandje brilliantly based on his warm up, a pretty good judge of a player

[Red Kent]

its called encouragment. he s*** himself every time he had the ball. if you want to give him 6 then fine, i'm not really arsed. i thought he looked woeful. but there you go

 

I'm not giving him anything, its not X factor.

[Gunga Din]

I'm not giving him anything, its not X factor.

 

he might as well go on x factor. there is more chance of him making it as a singer than as a centre half at Liverpool

[carrafan]

Reina 7

Johnson 8

Carra 7

Ayala 7

Insua 6

Kuyt 7

Masch 8

Lucas 8

Benny 7

Gerrard 7

Torres 6

Edited August 19, 2009 by carrafan

[Red Kent]

he might as well go on x factor. there is more chance of him making it as a singer than as a centre half at Liverpool

 

And you might as well do the same as a nicompoop because you have more chance of doing nicompooping stuff than being a supporter of Liverpool.

[Raj]

its called encouragment. he s*** himself every time he had the ball. if you want to give him 6 then fine, i'm not really arsed. i thought he looked woeful. but there you go

 

Did he score an OG or create an opportunity for the opposition?

I didnt see the game so I am wondering if you can explain why he was so bad.

To get a 3, is to get into Paul Stewart territory, so he must have been pretty horrific

Edited August 19, 2009 by roegahnn

[Hassony]

Radio 5 were saying that we missed Alonso and Lucas isn't the answer

 

weird as he seems to have played well and we couldn't score against Stoke last season when Xabi was in the team

[Raj]

I wouldn't argue with big wayne, he called itandje brilliantly based on his warm up, a pretty good judge of a player

 

Thats irrelevant

[Gunga Din]

Did he score an OG or create an opportunity?

I didnt see the game so I am wondering if you can explain why he was so bad.

To get a 3, is to get into Paul Stewart territory, so he must have been pretty horrific

 

he didnt know what to do with the ball, he didnt hold the line, he was caught out of position time and again and only a decent final ball by stoke players stopped us getting into trouble.

 

on a couple of occasions he got the ball, no one near him, walked out with it, every player bar Pepe ahead of him, gets to the centre circle, then turns round and makes to go back towards our goal with the ball.

 

and paul Stewart would have got a 1.

 

If Ayala plays another game for us i'll be stunned to be honest.

[Gunga Din]

Radio 5 were saying that we missed Alonso and Lucas isn't the answer

 

weird as he seems to have played well and we couldn't score against Stoke last season when Xabi was in the team

 

Lucas played really well, kept the ball moving and us ticking. he isnt a replacement for Alonso because he is a different type of player. one encouraging thing from us tonight was that we were getting bodies forward consistently. the movement in the final 3rd still isnt great, but it was nice to see 2 fullbacks willing to get into their box and make nuisances of theselves

[Raj]

Perhaps he was nervous. Perhaps he needs time to adapt to this or even Championship level.

I'll be honest, I dont think that he will make it here, from what I have seen, but to give a kid a 3 on his full debut seems harsh from what I have heard

[stressederic]

Lucas played really well, kept the ball moving and us ticking. he isnt a replacement for Alonso because he is a different type of player. one encouraging thing from us tonight was that we were getting bodies forward consistently. the movement in the final 3rd still isnt great, but it was nice to see 2 fullbacks willing to get into their box and make nuisances of theselves

 

I felt a bit sorry for Insua that he didn't score from that chance. He should have put it away really, but he'd bust a gut to get up there alongside the break which is really good to see.

Edited August 19, 2009 by stressederic

[Gunga Din]

Perhaps he was nervous. Perhaps he needs time to adapt to this or even Championship level.

I'll be honest, I dont think that he will make it here, from what I have seen, but to give a kid a 3 on his full debut seems harsh from what I have heard

 

like you have said lad, you havent seen the match. i didnt realise the match ratings factored in experience, age, nationality.

 

f*** it, lets just say he was class, the new Alan Hansen. the lad was brilliant. give him the armband and be done with it.

[New York Red]

he didnt know what to do with the ball, he didnt hold the line, he was caught out of position time and again and only a decent final ball by stoke players stopped us getting into trouble.

 

on a couple of occasions he got the ball, no one near him, walked out with it, every player bar Pepe ahead of him, gets to the centre circle, then turns round and makes to go back towards our goal with the ball.

 

and paul Stewart would have got a 1.

 

If Ayala plays another game for us i'll be stunned to be honest.

 

Does he look physically out of depth too Wayne?

[Raj]

like you have said lad, you havent seen the match. i didnt realise the match ratings factored in experience, age, nationality.

 

f*** it, lets just say he was class, the new Alan Hansen. the lad was brilliant. give him the armband and be done with it.

 

f*** it wayne. Its a debate and your language sounded harsh that is all. Ive not been rude, so f*** off with that.

[Gunga Din]

Does he look physically out of depth too Wayne?

 

compared to the other defenders, he did, he isnt strong enough to play there in the prem, i dont think he would make it at championship or even league one to be brutally honest.

Edited August 19, 2009 by Gunga Din