Players asking the referee to book opponents...

[abc]

If a player makes a bad tackle against my teammate or even myself, why can't I have a word with the referee and ask for some protection so we won't end up getting serious injuries?

 

Or if my teammate has just received a dubious booking (maybe for a slightly mistimed tackle) and an opponent has made a similar one, am I not entitled to have a word with the ref and say "if you booked my player/me earlier for something identical, surely it is only fair that you book him too?".

 

I'm not saying you should be allowed to hound the referee over every single foul, not at all. But when it comes to protecting players from injuries or asking for fair and equal treatment, surely that is not "unsporting behavior"?

 

(this is sort of LFC related as I was just re-watching the Barca 2nd round tie from 2 years ago heard the commentator make reference to a player asking for one of our players to be booked )

Edited August 1, 2009 by abc

[Stevie H]

it's sh*thouse behaviour and i wish it wasn't in the game at all. unfortunately there's a very real case for us needing to do it more than we do as certain opponents do it loads and it benefits them (because referees are weak, partly their own fault, partly the league's). in a perfect world though every player who even spoke to the referee would be booked and anyone who laid a hand on him sent off.

[Jarg Armani]

we should do it at every opportunity against good teams, because these small differences and percentages can change the outcome.

 

we shouldn't be at it against wolves at home.

[Chili Palmer]

I have to say I hate it, even when its done by our lads.

[Chili Palmer]

we should do it at every opportunity against good teams, because these small differences and percentages can change the outcome.

 

we shouldn't be at it against wolves at home.

 

 

If you're gonna do it, do it against everyone. 3 points is 3 points.

[abc]

it's sh*thouse behaviour and i wish it wasn't in the game at all. unfortunately there's a very real case for us needing to do it more than we do as certain opponents do it loads and it benefits them (because referees are weak, partly their own fault, partly the league's). in a perfect world though every player who even spoke to the referee would be booked and anyone who laid a hand on him sent off.

 

If it's done in the context which I've explained (very bad tackle or if an identical foul was punished by a card) why is it sh*thouse behavior? Referees are quite often inconsistent - if you remind them of an incident which they might have forgotten, isn't that for the better of the game? You hold them accountable for their decisions. Again, I'm not saying to go and hound the referee after every single bad decision. But if I spot unfairness in treatment, or a lack of willingness to protect players from serious foul play I should have a right to ask for it, no?

 

Let's say a yellow card might be given for a mistimed tackle by player A, but if player B who is on a yellow commits an identical (or marginally worse) infringement gets away with a telling off. Where's the consistency? A yellow card offence is a yellow card offence. That second offence might injure someone on another occasion - why should such a player be allowed the leniency of staying on the pitch? He might not be maliciously throwing himself about but if he is rubbish at tackling he should be removed from the pitch so he doesn't injure other professionals.

[Red Kent]

I hate it, ranks alongside diving for me.

[Jarg Armani]

If you're gonna do it, do it against everyone. 3 points is 3 points.

 

 

No need against everyone.

 

There's nothing wrong with reminding a referee how many fouls a particular player, eg scholes, has committed in a particular game eg first leg of a euro semi at castle greyskull.

[Red Kent]

Was it not two seasons ago referees were told to book players who waved the imaginary card in the air ? What happened to that directive ?

[theredfella]

I have to say I hate it, even when its done by our lads.

 

I agree.

 

The worst is that you get lads on a Sunday doing it now as well, takes the p*ss to f*ck.

 

The powers that be should categorise it under unsporting behaviour and make it a mandatory yellow. If however a captain feels the referee is inconsistent then maybe there could be some leeway for him to ask the referee to explain the decision in the context of the previous one.

[Billy Dane]

Players should just man up, smacks of cheating to me, sad day when we have to sink to that level.

[New York Red]

There's no need for it at all. It is a bookable offense in my book.

 

What's needed is better refereeing, and I wouldn't mind having more than one ref and also having video reviews during the game if need be.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

I hate it, ranks alongside diving for me.

 

it's worse than diving. the "card him" gesture is c***-ish. diving is boss, if it gets you a penalty.

[cymrococh]

Depends what you mean, nothing wrong with a little 'Ref that's been happening all game' - especially if it comes from the captain. Gerrard should have been at this every match when Crouchy was here and getting penalised for being climbed over.

 

The waving of the imaginary card and hounding of the ref is a c*nt's game.

Edited August 2, 2009 by Captain Sanil Crastow

[John am Rhein]

Any player that waves an imaginary card should immediately have the other side waving imaginary cards to demand that the ref book the initial imaginary card waver.

[Knox_Harrington]

Depends what you mean, nothing wrong with a little 'Ref that's been happening all game' - especially if it comes from the captain. Gerrard should have been at this every match when Crouchy was here and getting penalised for being climbed over.

 

The waving of the imaginary card and hounding of the ref is a c*nt's game.

I remember Morientes after being scythed down for the fifth time by Alan Stubbs counting them for an embarrassed looking ref who hadn't yet carded that c***.

[Rich Gobey]

The imaginary card waving player should make some kind of gesture with his non-imaginary card waving hand, indicating that the imaginary card he is waving is an imaginary yellow or imaginary red.

 

Imagine the controversy if a ref (non-imaginary) sent a player off following an imaginary card waving incident, when the waving player was flashing an imaginary yellow card rather than an imaginary red card.

 

In this instance, I would advocate that the offending player serves an immediate, imaginary 3 match ban, thus allowing him to play the next match.

[Hassony]

did anyone mind when carra was jumping in front of the ref demanding gatusso to be sent off in istanbul? apeealing for a throw in when a player knows that he was the last one to touch it is more annoying imo

[Stevie H]

did anyone mind when carra was jumping in front of the ref demanding gatusso to be sent off in istanbul? apeealing for a throw in when a player knows that he was the last one to touch it is more annoying imo

is it buggery. and gattuso should have been sent off, carragher was spot on in that instance. as he was that time he went mental over tiago handballing it.

[Hassony]

so its ok to ask for a red card and not a yellow card? Of course carra was right over gatusso

[Stevie H]

if the ref is making a massive rick then it's ok to point out that the player has to be sent off, as in gattuso's case. waving imaginary cards, be they imaginary yellow or imaginary red, deserves a smack.

[Hassony]

what about if the ref wasn't giving any protection to torres and 2/3/4 yellow cards should have been given but weren't, would it be ok then to put pressure on the ref and ask him what's going on?

[Chili Palmer]

what about if the ref wasn't giving any protection to torres and 2/3/4 yellow cards should have been given but weren't, would it be ok then to put pressure on the ref and ask him what's going on?

 

 

It's only the waving of the card that pisses me off, only gets the opponents fans and the players fired up. A sly 'no yellow for that ref?' has been going on for generations. get back to that.

[Loblaw]

Doesn't bother me too much when the yellow card is warranted. What really irks me though is when the diving cheating fannys do it.

[stressederic]

what about if the ref wasn't giving any protection to torres and 2/3/4 yellow cards should have been given but weren't, would it be ok then to put pressure on the ref and ask him what's going on?

 

No. Especially if you're called Mascherano and we're playing at Old Trafford. Apparently.