Chewie Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I reckon we're really gonna have to have a go for the first 45... if it ain't working after that get Gerrard and Torres off and protect em for the league... I know some discussions have already started in this but I reckon we need to really come up with something different rather than letting Essien do another job on Stevie. chelsea don't rely on width the way they used to when Cole / Robben / Duff etc were all options... it was the passing through the middle that got us... Also, bolton hammered them aerially today and we have to look at that in terms of getting numbers in the box...we also need Agger to carry an additional threat by bringing the ball out.... I'd seriously go for... Reina Carra Agger Skrtl Masch Alonso Kuyt Aurelio Gerrard Reira/Benny Torres the only doubt is whether to play Reira or Benny... I'd go for Reira for the aforementioned aerial threat.... Kuyt will work his socks off protecting that right flank and him and Gerrard can double up...ditto Aurelio and Reira... Masch and Alonso need to protect the defence and keep attack ticking over... I know it may seem a little mad changing things at this stage but we need to surprise them and really go at them and I reckon this set-up could do it... if we get to 1-0 with 45 to go they'll get nervy! C'MON THE MIGHTY REDS
carrafan Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I dont think we need to try anything new. Getting Masch back will be a huge bonus and will help us win in midfield and get to a lot of second balls. A lot depends on whether Rafa trusts Aurelio or not; I think Dossena might get a start so that he can bomb forward and try and put crosses in. I have a cheeky feeling that Benayoun might play left midfield to cut inside and make more men inside the box. Apart from that we dont need to change anything. If we can get the start that we did in the home fixture, we have the quality to get a couple of more goals over the 90 minutes. Blackburn didnt play today but we were very, very good especially with our work rate and movement upfront. Carvalho individually, is a better defender than Terry but Terry is the one who sets up the back four and they WILL miss him. I'd play Agger as well as he's good at attacking set pieces. I'm scared to play Hyypia against Drobga. PepeArbeloa Carra Agger DossenaAlonso MascheranoKuyt Gerrard BenayounTorres.
budgie Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I reckon we're really gonna have to have a go for the first 45... if it ain't working after that get Gerrard and Torres off and protect em for the league... I know some discussions have already started in this but I reckon we need to really come up with something different rather than letting Essien do another job on Stevie. chelsea don't rely on width the way they used to when Cole / Robben / Duff etc were all options... it was the passing through the middle that got us... Also, bolton hammered them aerially today and we have to look at that in terms of getting numbers in the box...we also need Agger to carry an additional threat by bringing the ball out.... I'd seriously go for... Reina Carra Agger Skrtl Masch Alonso Kuyt Aurelio Gerrard Reira/Benny Torres the only doubt is whether to play Reira or Benny... I'd go for Reira for the aforementioned aerial threat.... Kuyt will work his socks off protecting that right flank and him and Gerrard can double up...ditto Aurelio and Reira... Masch and Alonso need to protect the defence and keep attack ticking over... I know it may seem a little mad changing things at this stage but we need to surprise them and really go at them and I reckon this set-up could do it... if we get to 1-0 with 45 to go they'll get nervy! C'MON THE MIGHTY REDS Our best performances are when the full backs get forward. That team would have no width.
Romario Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 We have NOTHING t lose and I think that freedom might cause us to surprise them. I'm not saying we'll win the tie but ya know, who knows. A coupe of early goals by Torres and....
Dmitch Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 i feel today will have reinstalled our belief 4-0 win Chelsea let in 3.. its all mind games!
Chewie Posted April 11, 2009 Author Posted April 11, 2009 Our best performances are when the full backs get forward. That team would have no width. I kow it didn't come out well the way the post was formatted but it would be 3 at the back with Kuyt and Aurelio pushed out wide and Gerrard/Kuyt overlapping on right and Reira/aurelio on left... when we are going forward we should be committing 5 men to the attack Kuyt Gerrard Reira Aurelio Torres and trusting to Alonso/Masch to hold the fort.... I would also tbh give Alonso a bit more freedom to push forward and allow Agger to distribute a little more... I think we need to overwhelm them completely! I know we'll not play that way and if its our usual 4-2-3-1 I'll not be unhappy provided that Arbeloa/Aurelio bomb forward...Agger pushes the defence up and we press like mad from second 1... if we're in it at half time having given them a game we can be proud even if we run out of steam... I'll be gutted if we just fade... this is theirs to lose and ours to gain... one goal from us with even 25 minutes left and it'll go mad! Chewie
floyd the barber Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 hmmmmm another suggestion.. ------------reina-------------arbeloa-carra-agger----insua-------------masch------------gerrard---alonso---benny------------------kuyt-----------------------torres------------ Gerrard to be played wide right is key for me... i doubt chelsea will expect it, plus cole wont like seeing stevie attacking him at every chance....gerrard definetly has the beating of him, plus intellegence on the flanks will be vital in this game......chelsea will sit deep so pace is not going to be an issue....i
CarraLegend Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 Its a bit simplistic but i'd start Hyypia and Agger, they're our biggest goal threats and we need goals, with Terry out we might be able to exploit a lack of organisation by them on set pieces and stuff. I know thats leaving out our organiser aswell, but Sami knows what he's at and we need goals. Wont happen but i'd like to see it.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 Its a bit simplistic but i'd start Hyypia and Agger, they're our biggest goal threats and we need goals, with Terry out we might be able to exploit a lack of organisation by them on set pieces and stuff. I know thats leaving out our organiser aswell, but Sami knows what he's at and we need goals. Wont happen but i'd like to see it. I agree. And Sami was our organiser back in the day, so we should be alright. That said, Carra did some excellent providing today (albeit against an abject load of s***.)
Chewie Posted April 11, 2009 Author Posted April 11, 2009 Its a bit simplistic but i'd start Hyypia and Agger, they're our biggest goal threats and we need goals, with Terry out we might be able to exploit a lack of organisation by them on set pieces and stuff. I know thats leaving out our organiser aswell, but Sami knows what he's at and we need goals. Wont happen but i'd like to see it. that could work - Agger and Sami are a far greater threat at set pieces than Carra and Skrtl... we need every scrap we can get on Tuesday... when they walk off the pitch on Tuesday night I want to be proud, not indifferent as was the response of so many last Wed... Indifference sucks... we've had that indifferent feeling for 19 years in the league.... if we fall short this year I want it to be on goal difference or by a penalty shoot-out or something.... if we lose fighting and taking risks so be it... it we simply lose then what's the point of playing...
Romario Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 that could work - Agger and Sami are a far greater threat at set pieces than Carra and Skrtl... we need every scrap we can get on Tuesday... when they walk off the pitch on Tuesday night I want to be proud, not indifferent as was the response of so many last Wed... Indifference sucks... we've had that indifferent feeling for 19 years in the league.... if we fall short this year I want it to be on goal difference or by a penalty shoot-out or something.... if we lose fighting and taking risks so be it... it we simply lose then what's the point of playing...100% agree
floyd the barber Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 im trying to think of realistic posibilites....and Carra not starting aint gonna be one... Maybe...a case for playing all 3.....with agger sitting in front of the other two. -----------------reina---------------------------carra-----skrtl------------arbeloa-------agger-------insua---------alonso---------masch-----------kuyt-----gerrard------------------------------torres------------- and compress the game in the middle......have both full backs try and stretch the wings..insua and arbeloa definetly have the pace and energy to do that.....
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 im trying to think of realistic posibilites....and Carra not starting aint gonna be one... Maybe...a case for playing all 3.....with agger sitting in front of the other two. -----------------reina---------------------------carra-----skrtl------------arbeloa-------agger-------insua---------alonso---------masch-----------kuyt-----gerrard------------------------------torres------------- and compress the game in the middle......have both full backs try and stretch the wings..insua and arbeloa definetly have the pace and energy to do that..... it's a bit bonkers to introduce an extra defender when you need to score as many as we do.
CarraLegend Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 im trying to think of realistic posibilites....and Carra not starting aint gonna be one... Maybe...a case for playing all 3.....with agger sitting in front of the other two. -----------------reina---------------------------carra-----skrtl------------arbeloa-------agger-------insua---------alonso---------masch-----------kuyt-----gerrard------------------------------torres------------- and compress the game in the middle......have both full backs try and stretch the wings..insua and arbeloa definetly have the pace and energy to do that..... You talk about realistic so choose 3 at the back and a player who cant play anyway!
MFletcher Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I've decided we're going to do them. We'll win 5-1.
johngibo YPC Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 We should just have a word with the referee.. We'll have to if we want to play Insua
allawee Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 I've decided we're going to do them. We'll win 5-1. Is this like the Real Madrid forcast?! I really hope so
floyd the barber Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 You talk about realistic so choose 3 at the back and a player who cant play anyway! apologies...forgot mighty insua was not registered.....so aurellio or doessena in.. and you say a bit bonkers to play an extra defender, well not... most pundits were saying it was crazy bringing on hamann against milan when we needed to score 3 goals??? no..it was tactically genius.. Chelsea are gonna set up expecting gerrard in the hole...they will also not expect agger to play in front of the back 4...let him sit there and do the alonso role....push alonso further forward and allow masch the freedom to go tearing about closing down......
Chili Palmer Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 just watch big Sami come on after 70 minutes to play up front. The big man up front worked 3 goals for Bolton. (and that was with Terry)
Andy @ Allerton Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Couldn't give two hoots about the game on Tuesday. f*** em. I'm going to watch Ultravox instead in Mancland.
psl Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Couldn't give two hoots about the game on Tuesday. f*** em. I'm going to watch Ultravox instead in Mancland. Does that make you a fan, a supporter or a follower?
Andy @ Allerton Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Does that make you a fan, a supporter or a follower? Bought the ticket months ago Might have been a bit of a harder decision if we'd been at home or if I was planning on going to the dump known as London.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Bought the ticket months ago Might have been a bit of a harder decision if we'd been at home or if I was planning on going to the dump known as London. you were the one giving out all sorts of s*** to people who suggested resting some players on Tuesday, you mentalist.
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