Newsnow Information Service

[Nebraska Red]

Each day I check this site's Liverpool page to see if there is any decent info on injuries, transfer targets etc.

 

I go there today and it is more like a lynching service than an information service.

 

Almost every article is having a go at the team, the selection policies and most of all our Manager. "Quotes" and threats form Gillett seem to be the meat of today's news.

 

Looks like it's time to delete this from my folders.

 

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/...eague/Liverpool

[charlie clown]

I see the Daily Star today is carrying Gillet's comments from the doorstep SOS intereview. Gits the lot of em (Gillet and the papers, not SOS).

[David Hodgson]

Newsnow out to get us now. Will it never end ?!?

[Sion]

:Seigementality:

[gns]

Cant really blame Newsnow, they are just an indexing service! You can report any s**** articles/unsuitable sources if you like.

[spacemonkey]

Yep, report the offending sources. I did a couple of months ago and they responded and acted very promptly (others had reported the same sources apparently).

[Maldini]

You should be able to pick and choose which sites you see

[gns]

You should be able to pick and choose which sites you see

 

you can, just use an rss feed from the sites you want.

[psl]

We need a newsnow that only shows good things about us!

[M4TTA]

We need a newsnow that only shows good things about us!

 

 

www.liverpoolfc.tv

[gkmacca]

I wish they'd avoid the blogs, which are hardly 'news' anyway.

[Maldini]

you can, just use an rss feed from the sites you want.

 

Not every site has an RSS feed though

[DanielS]

Newsnow out to get us now. Will it never end ?!?

 

I used to scoff at the "they're all out to get us" types too, but lately the criticism of our club, from the manager to the fans, has been beyond the pale. The number of positive articles, especially considering the fact we are the second placed team in the premiership, are ridiculously few and far between.

 

Take Wenger. He has driven his side into the ground - from unbeatable to battling for a UEFA spot - and yet he rates barely a whimper in the press. I know he's won the Premier league several times, but considering what he is currently achieving you'd think there would be more negative comment. More than Benitez, surely?

[Maldini]

Newsnow out to get us now. Will it never end ?!?

 

I think he was talking more about the swath of articles criticising us than having a go at Newsnow

[David Hodgson]

I think he was talking more about the swath of articles criticising us than having a go at Newsnow

 

Probably, but he refers to deleting Newsnow from his folders.

[David Hodgson]

I used to scoff at the "they're all out to get us" types too, but lately the criticism of our club, from the manager to the fans, has been beyond the pale. The number of positive articles, especially considering the fact we are the second placed team in the premiership, are ridiculously few and far between.

 

Take Wenger. He has driven his side into the ground - from unbeatable to battling for a UEFA spot - and yet he rates barely a whimper in the press. I know he's won the Premier league several times, but considering what he is currently achieving you'd think there would be more negative comment. More than Benitez, surely?

 

Funnily enough, one of the Sunday rags has an editorial piece slating Wenger and says how grateful Arsene must be for Rafa Benitez at the moment (in that he's diverting attention from Wenger's failings).

 

FWIW I genuinely don't think they're out to get us at the moment, but the big 4 always make good copy, and negative spin is more interesting than the positive stuff. To be fair to the tabs, up to 8 days ago we were in the middle of a dodgy run, whilst United flourished, and all in the wake of Rafa's now notorious 'rant'. Add the effective admission of 'failure' in the offloading of '£20m flop Robbie Keane', and the wranglings over the manager's new contract, and in tabloid terms you have all the ingredients of a good 'ol fashioned big club 'in crisis'.

 

I don't think they're particularly out to get us, but where there's muck there's brass. I think for a week or two now, until ENGERlund, distract them, the tabloids will be mostly murdering Wenger and Scolari.

[anny road]

Funnily enough, one of the Sunday rags has an editorial piece slating Wenger and says how grateful Arsene must be for Rafa Benitez at the moment (in that he's diverting attention from Wenger's failings).

 

FWIW I genuinely don't think they're out to get us at the moment, but the big 4 always make good copy, and negative spin is more interesting than the positive stuff. To be fair to the tabs, up to 8 days ago we were in the middle of a dodgy run, whilst United flourished, and all in the wake of Rafa's now notorious 'rant'. Add the effective admission of 'failure' in the offloading of '£20m flop Robbie Keane', and the wranglings over the manager's new contract, and in tabloid terms you have all the ingredients of a good 'ol fashioned big club 'in crisis'.

 

I don't think they're particularly out to get us, but where there's muck there's brass. I think for a week or two now, until ENGERlund, distract them, the tabloids will be mostly murdering Wenger and Scolari.

 

 

will they f*** be on Wenger or Scolari's case

 

they will be on Rafa''s....and the reason is he polarises people because he refuses to conform to what no nothing ex pro's and seasoned, pissed up hacks think is the correct way of doing things....it's rent a cliche with them

 

"play your strongest XI" blah blah blah

 

the fact that he doesnt conform means that he is mental and is leading us to ruin...they know best

 

t***s

[Stevie H]

Funnily enough, one of the Sunday rags has an editorial piece slating Wenger and says how grateful Arsene must be for Rafa Benitez at the moment (in that he's diverting attention from Wenger's failings).

 

FWIW I genuinely don't think they're out to get us at the moment, but the big 4 always make good copy, and negative spin is more interesting than the positive stuff. To be fair to the tabs, up to 8 days ago we were in the middle of a dodgy run, whilst United flourished, and all in the wake of Rafa's now notorious 'rant'. Add the effective admission of 'failure' in the offloading of '£20m flop Robbie Keane', and the wranglings over the manager's new contract, and in tabloid terms you have all the ingredients of a good 'ol fashioned big club 'in crisis'.

 

I don't think they're particularly out to get us, but where there's muck there's brass. I think for a week or two now, until ENGERlund, distract them, the tabloids will be mostly murdering Wenger and Scolari.

don't agree, wenger is certainly immune to the type of character assassination that rafa's getting at the minute, and scolari seems to be let off because it's not his fault roman has stopped throwing money about willy-nilly.

 

i really feel that there's a certain section of the media which won't be happy until rafa is gone because he doesn't play the media game the way they want him to. they don't understand him, he doesn't give them easy meat to play with like a redknapp does and as a result they just don't like him.

 

here's another pisspoor match report by the way: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/fe...tez-ngog-torres

[David Hodgson]

will they f*** be on Wenger or Scolari's case

 

they will be on Rafa''s....and the reason is he polarises people because he refuses to conform to what no nothing ex pro's and seasoned, pissed up hacks think is the correct way of doing things....it's rent a cliche with them

 

"play your strongest XI" blah blah blah

 

the fact that he doesnt conform means that he is mental and is leading us to ruin...they know best

 

t***s

 

Well there was a big piece attacking Wenger on Sunday. That's a start.

 

Of course Rafa gives them things to hang their hats on, but all big club big name managers do. The minute United don't win for a few games you get the 'Fergies losing the plot headlines' (well, used to, before the last 2 seasons). Scolari's had it in the neck for the past few months about 'losing the dressing room', and he's going to get more. Why ? Because they've got it in for big baldy Brazillians who don't conform to their Manchester/cockney bias, and don't get his genius ? Or is it because he manages a big club where expectations are really really high, and the slightest blip becomes over analysed.

 

Every club feels the same as 'we' do about press persecution. FFS this is old hat, and it's pure paranoid fantasy to think we're being singled out.

[David Hodgson]

don't agree, wenger is certainly immune to the type of character assassination that rafa's getting at the minute, and scolari seems to be let off because it's not his fault roman has stopped throwing money about willy-nilly.

 

i really feel that there's a certain section of the media which won't be happy until rafa is gone because he doesn't play the media game the way they want him to. they don't understand him, he doesn't give them easy meat to play with like a redknapp does and as a result they just don't like him.

 

here's another pisspoor match report by the way: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/fe...tez-ngog-torres

 

We said the same things when Houllier was in charge, and he's a very different personality to Rafa. The press were certainly no kinder to him, especially when he was doing well, madly enough.

[DanielS]

I agree that all of the top clubs get it, but we're getting more of it and its getting pretty nasty. There are just more critical reports and comments about us than any other club at the moment and its pretty ridiculous considering what Arsenal and Chelsea, among others, are up to.

[Stevie H]

I agree that all of the top clubs get it, but we're getting more of it and its getting pretty nasty. There are just more critical reports and comments about us than any other club at the moment and its pretty ridiculous considering what Arsenal and Chelsea, among others, are up to.

definitely, and it's far more vitriolic than anything i've seen levelled at a big club's manager before. i'd be happy if rafa went all mister ferguson and just refused to give the f*ckers the time of day.

[Maldini]

Well there was a big piece attacking Wenger on Sunday. That's a start.

 

Of course Rafa gives them things to hang their hats on, but all big club big name managers do. The minute United don't win for a few games you get the 'Fergies losing the plot headlines' (well, used to, before the last 2 seasons). Scolari's had it in the neck for the past few months about 'losing the dressing room', and he's going to get more. Why ? Because they've got it in for big baldy Brazillians who don't conform to their Manchester/cockney bias, and don't get his genius ? Or is it because he manages a big club where expectations are really really high, and the slightest blip becomes over analysed.

 

Every club feels the same as 'we' do about press persecution. FFS this is old hat, and it's pure paranoid fantasy to think we're being singled out.

 

I've said it before and I still think it's true, I think the anti LFC stuff is just part of a greater anti-Liverpool city sentiment in the media. The Rafa stuff is part that, part him being foreign, but mostly it's because he doesn't play the media game, doesn't supply them with good copy and treats them like the know-nothing morons that they are.

[David Hodgson]

I've said it before and I still think it's true, I think the anti LFC stuff is just part of a greater anti-Liverpool city sentiment in the media. The Rafa stuff is part that, part him being foreign, but mostly it's because he doesn't play the media game, doesn't supply them with good copy and treats them like the know-nothing morons that they are.

 

I think there's definitely a long tradition of being anti-Liverpool the city in the media, and I don't doubt that that occcasionally spills over into vitriol against LFC.

 

However, I think Rafa gives reasonable copy and seemed, until recently to be held in a degree of awe by the press. Yes, they repeat the same cliches about rotation, and take it as given that he's a purely defensive coach, but I don't think, that over the course of his time here, they've had it in for him.

 

As for good copy, I think he regularly courts controversy, but is noticeably less spikey with the media than, say, Mr Ferguson. They've got more reason to have it in for him, than they do Rafa.

 

Having said all this, I do think they've had a line they're determined to peddle since the point of Rafa's diatribe against Ferguson. They love the whole concept of 'mind games' because it flatters them that they (the media) are actually relevant in a sporting contest. Rafa knew what beast he was unleashing went he 'went there', and if results didn't immediately follow, he was always going to get slaughtered ( and to a degree, rightly so).

 

After a run of bad scores which fit the bill for the ongoing 'when mind games go wrong' soap opera, Liverpool and Rafa have temporarily spoilt the 'Rafa's cracking up' plot by actually winning a couple of games. Because of what's preceeded those wins, and what was sandwiched between them (the Cup defeat V Everton), I don't think the media are yet ready to re-align their position. A good win V Man City would probably get them back on side, but anything less than 3 points, and Rafa will be back in the cliche dock again.

[David Hodgson]

definitely, and it's far more vitriolic than anything i've seen levelled at a big club's manager before. i'd be happy if rafa went all mister ferguson and just refused to give the f*ckers the time of day.

 

Absolutely. However, Rafa chose to actively live by the media sword by using them to rubbish Ferguson, it can't be a surprise to see them turn on him. And, let's get things in perspective, their venom is relatively mild. It's not as though they've called for his head.