Cam Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 1) The Alonso/Lampard rule: If you've had a player sent off for a foul and the hurt player is off the pitch receiving treatment (ie it's still 10 versus 10 for a while) you must temporarily lose another player until the injured guy comes back on or is subbed. They launched an attack straight after the sending off and a goal would have made a mockery of being punished. Perhaps the manager must nominate one, maybe the captain, tallest, shortest, player nearest the ball... 2) If one team has been adjudged to have been wasting the vast majority of the time scheduled for 'injury time or time added on' and that team finds itself losing at 90 minutes then all added on time is cancelled. The feckers built up 5 minutes today. Why should they be allowed additional time to get themselves back into the game? They've already had - and threw away - that time. It would make the game much more free-flowing.
Gunga Din Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 if a player is injured, get the physio on and dont stop play. play around him like they do in rugby
addi #7 Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 2) If one team has been adjudged to have been wasting the vast majority of the time scheduled for 'injury time or time added on' and that team finds itself losing at 90 minutes then all added on time is cancelled. The feckers built up 5 minutes today. Why should they be allowed additional time to get themselves back into the game? They've already had - and threw away - that time. It would make the game much more free-flowing. Was thinking the same thing watching the game today, so unfair that Chelsea gain on there own time wasting while they should have been punished.
Nebraska Red Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 to be fair to the refs, there was a long delay for the sending off together with 6 subs and a goal in normal time. 5 minutes was probably correct, you just don't see it as often as you should. I watched the Milan-Lazio game and despite there being 2 goals and a bunch of subs in the 2nd half, the ref blew exactly on the 90th minute, mainly to put Lazio out of their misery.
RP Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Was thinking the same thing watching the game today, so unfair that Chelsea gain on there own time wasting while they should have been punished. You do understand that the added time is just making up for time that has been lost during the scheduled 45 minutes, don't you? It doesn't get produced out of thin air - how on earth does anyone "gain" from it??
Jim D Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 An impartial refereeing performance at Old Trafford...be a nice rule change that.
NWR Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 An impartial refereeing performance at Old Trafford...be a nice rule change that. What? Like yesterday? Gerrards gets a talking too and Lampard is sent off for the very same tackle a few mins later? I know what you mean. Where is Andy when you need him eh?
Gerry Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 What? Like yesterday? Gerrards gets a talking too and Lampard is sent off for the very same tackle a few mins later? I know what you mean. Where is Andy when you need him eh? The tackles weren't the very same. One was a studs up challenge that got the ball and then made contact with a player. The other wasn't studs up and missed everything. Other than that they were identical.
Guy_Incognito Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Nice to see the Glams lining up to point out that Riley's a s*** ref. Strange how they always used to stick up for him when I'd accuse him of the same...
Stevie H Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Nice to see the Glams lining up to point out that Riley's a s*** ref. Strange how they always used to stick up for him when I'd accuse him of the same...'it all evens out over the course of a season'. apart from when liverpool's manager produces a detailed dossier and everyone outside of salford agrees with him.
addi #7 Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 You do understand that the added time is just making up for time that has been lost during the scheduled 45 minutes, don't you? It doesn't get produced out of thin air - how on earth does anyone "gain" from it?? I was just implying that I thought it was unfair that Chelsea could take as much time as they wanted while it was still 0-0 and not getting punished and then find themselves 1-0 down and looking for a goal to draw the game, and the referee adds on 5 minutes, that was a little to much. And I know it's the rules, I'm not a total nuthead, I was just agreeing with what Cam said and I thought it was a nice idea.
Berger Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 The current referee system is outdated long ago and the errors made by the referee has great impacts on the results. And the current system is probably too much at risk subject of the manipualtion and money influences.We should have at least 2 referees on the pitch at any time and the overall officials on and off the pitches should be increased to ensure the game is fair and to protect the best interests of all parties.I think Rafa's suggestion at the retrospective decision by referees after the game is a good idea. It helps referee to punish the players that escapes possible red cards offences during the game.
RP Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 I was just implying that I thought it was unfair that Chelsea could take as much time as they wanted while it was still 0-0 and not getting punished and then find themselves 1-0 down and looking for a goal to draw the game, and the referee adds on 5 minutes, that was a little to much. And I know it's the rules, I'm not a total nuthead, I was just agreeing with what Cam said and I thought it was a nice idea. Makes no sense - they wasted time, which was added on at the end. Makes no odds really, unless the ref screws up his timekeeping and doesn't add enough/adds too much.
gns Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Use of video replays - 3 challenges per game, dont lose a challenge if its successful Edited February 2, 2009 by gns
kop205 Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Makes no sense - they wasted time, which was added on at the end. Makes no odds really, unless the ref screws up his timekeeping and doesn't add enough/adds too much. Not entirely true as the time-added-on can become a bit of a sustained, nothing-to-lose cavalry charge in the way that a load of disjointed, wasted thirty seconds here and there isn't going to.
Ostrich Man Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Nice to see the Glams lining up to point out that Riley's a s*** ref. Strange how they always used to stick up for him when I'd accuse him of the same...is "they" a few of your mates or people who work with you?
John am Rhein Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 if a player is injured, get the physio on and dont stop play. play around him like they do in rugby Good shout, that
John am Rhein Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 I'd like to see more brutality and violence brought back into the game. Skillful players should think twice about taking more than one touch of the ball because the're likely to get kicked into next week if they dwell on it. And step overs attempted would result in the perpetrator being viciously hacked to the ground with referee, managers and assorted pundits all sagely agreeing that he had it coming. Obviously persistent use of violent tactics should be met by the stern threat of a booking, but it would hopefully see ball players kicked out of football for good.
Guy_Incognito Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 is "they" a few of your mates or people who work with you? It's every single Man U fan on Earth. I'm quite the pollster.
smithdown Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Use of video replays - 3 challenges per game, dont lose a challenge if its successful Yep.
Ostrich Man Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 It's every single Man U fan on Earth. I'm quite the pollster."pollster" as in "t*** who makes stuff up" ??
Guy_Incognito Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 "pollster" as in "t*** who makes stuff up" ?? Sorry, I should have made it clearer that I was only referring to the Man United fans who I have met and spoke to, and wasn't attempting to speak for the entire Man U speaking community. I live and work in Manchester, however, and deal with a number of the c**** on a day to day basis, so the numbers involved and the consistencies in their behaviour more are enough for me to get tarring them all with the same brush.
Duncan Disorderly Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Quite simple really, no board indicating the injury time left should be used, but just left to the ref, so there isn't a psychological boost to the team losing or with a draw when, for instance, there will be 5 minutes left. It should just be played to whenever the whistle is blown. If a player slabbers and gets a yellow, then throws in a harsh tackle to "earn" a second yellow, it should be changed to "Yellow-Amber-Red" so that players and their club's season fixtures don't get scuppered by sending-offs that are due to the difference between a player losing his rag at a decision and getting another yellow for a completely unrelated offence. It would be a different matter if the offender was consistently hacking all round him. The argument that the introduction of technology undermines the power of the ref or disrupts the run of play is total bolllocks. The length of time it takes for video decisions to be made in rugby takes less time than setting up a free-kick or corner or carrying out a substitution as well as the speed an immediate decision is reached with the "Magic Eye" used in line decisions in tennis.
badtodabone Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 add a sin bin instead of yellow cards for " professional tackles" send him off for 15 mins
John am Rhein Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 add a sin bin instead of yellow cards for " professional tackles" send him off for 15 mins they'd probably think it was worth it
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