our corners

[anny road]

is it me or have they improved no end?

 

 

we dont seem to be hitting the first man as much and there is more movement

 

i know Newcastle were w***, but I thought we were better v Bolton

[gns]

agreed, but it wasnt gonna be hard to improve our corners was it?

[anny road]

true

 

but it is good if we are wroking hard on the training ground, which it looks like

 

against Bolton Riera scored with a flick after a front post run, Sami did the same today and it was cleared off the line

[abc]

I think Gerrard's deliveries have been superb recently, and have gradually improved since slightly before this time last year. And having Sami back in the team makes a big difference. Agger is a threat too.

 

Hope i'm not wrecking your thread dave, but digressing very slightly, the more corners I see being conceded due to poor man marking (Stoke goal against West Ham), the more I cannot understand why everyone does not mark zones on corners. And then they have the cheek to criticise us for doing that.

 

Also, do we also now consistently adopt a hybrid marking system where the line of 4/5 in front of the keeper is zonal, and then afterwards players pick their man and mark them?

[Stevie H]

we do seem to have stopped hitting the front man so much, which is a massive leap forward. they're showing a lot more thought and planning in general, couple of driven balls to the near post for riera's goal against bolton and sami's off the line yesterday, mixed up with some deeper far post ones and the odd one to the edge of the box. good to see.

[Benitez]

Good to see Lucas taking corners as well, even when SteG is playing.

 

He takes a decent corner.

[Jarg Armani]

Having Sami to aim at is the main difference in my opinion.

[anny road]

Having Sami to aim at is the main difference in my opinion.

 

that and an improvement in our movement i think

[Jarg Armani]

It makes things so much more unpredictable having sami there. We give the opposition something to think about if we do 'swing it into the mixer', which means when we do try something different it catches them off guard a bit. Riera's goal for example was from exactly the kind of near post delivery that gets so much stick.

 

I've often said that this is one of the areas in which we lag behind united and chelsea, a goal threat from centre back, specifically someone who can head corners into the net.

 

For me Agger has flattered to decieve a bit on the goalscoring side, and his run forward and shot is in danger of becoming the new Riise free kick.

 

Always bugs me how hilarious everyone seems to find Carragher's scoring record too.

[Chili Palmer]

its all to do with good delivery, Stevie is now putting good ball after good ball in.

[Jarg Armani]

its all to do with good delivery, Stevie is now putting good ball after good ball in.

 

Don't buy it. He hasn't just learned how to strike a dead ball has he?

[Chili Palmer]

Don't buy it. He hasn't just learned how to strike a dead ball has he?

 

 

of course not, but he can improve on everything and anything. Look at his pens. Corners are ALL about delivery imo.

[Knox_Harrington]

Don't buy it. He hasn't just learned how to strike a dead ball has he?

Agree. His delivery may have improved a smidgeon but as you say having Hyypia gives you the option of the percentage corner, "hit this big fella who tends to win his header" exactly the type of corner Lampard has specialised very well in. Then you vary around that and, yep, a bit of better movement also pays dividends.

[Stevie H]

of course not, but he can improve on everything and anything. Look at his pens. Corners are ALL about delivery imo.

not true. player movement, timing of runs and having someone who is simply really good in the air are all factors.

[sutty]

not true. player movement, timing of runs and having someone who is simply really good in the air are all factors.

 

I think delivery is the most important factor though

 

Look at Gary Mac for example

[Ibby]

I think delivery is the most important factor though

 

Look at Gary Mac for example

 

 

agree with that. Its no point having someone like sami in the box when all you do is hit the first defender

[Chili Palmer]

not true. player movement, timing of runs and having someone who is simply really good in the air are all factors.

 

 

All factors yep, not as big a one as the delivery. a good example of this is the Newcastle goal yesterday, Edgar never had to move. I'm sure there are many examples of movement, timing of runs and a good headers of course but the delivery is the one area that the defense can do nothing about.

[Knox_Harrington]

agree with that. Its no point having someone like sami in the box when all you do is hit the first defender

It's a lot easier to take a corner though when you have someone like Sami to hit. Likely to win his header, likely to head it well means you don't need to ping it in hard and flat like Beckham used to and can give it more loop like Lampard.

[Jarg Armani]

Look at Gary Mac for example

 

And he's on the dole. What does that tell you?

[Stevie H]

All factors yep, not as big a one as the delivery. a good example of this is the Newcastle goal yesterday, Edgar never had to move. I'm sure there are many examples of movement, timing of runs and a good headers of course but the delivery is the one area that the defense can do nothing about.

you said 'ALL' about delivery. you can have the best delivered ball in the world but if nobody's taking up the positions or making the right runs then it goes to waste. it's actually pretty rubbish that our only real credible threat from corners is sami.

[carrafan]

Always bugs me how hilarious everyone seems to find Carragher's scoring record too.

 

 

He doesnt even go up for corners when he plays fullback.

[Chili Palmer]

you said 'ALL' about delivery. you can have the best delivered ball in the world but if nobody's taking up the positions or making the right runs then it goes to waste. it's actually pretty rubbish that our only real credible threat from corners is sami.

 

 

I didn't mean it literally.

 

Agree about only having Sami tho.

[Knox_Harrington]

Agree about only having Sami tho.

So we are significantly more dangerous because Sami is playing then.

[Chili Palmer]

So we are significantly more dangerous because Sami is playing then.

 

 

no, just agreeing that Sami is by far our best header of the ball, in both boxes.

[Andy @ Allerton]

Our corners in the last few games have been astonishing compared to the crap we've had for nearly 15 years.

 

If we can actually put pressure on sides (for a change) from corners - then that will be a massive boost for us.