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No harm in reiterating G+H's refusal to acknowledge or clarify the lies they've told.

 

At least SOS are focusing on what so many have complained about them not doing. Damned if they do etc...

 

Will be interesting to see whether Rafa does actually get the contract following this visit (and I'm sure the booing left a really positive impression)

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Gillett is a sneaky, deceitful little worm.

 

It's an important message, and certainly bears repeating.

i wasn't at the match but was watching on telly and distinctly saw him mouth the words 'michael who?' during the protest. the spiteful ignorant napoleon complex wee f*ck.

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i wasn't at the match but was watching on telly and distinctly saw him mouth the words 'michael who?' during the protest. the spiteful ignorant napoleon complex wee f*ck.

 

 

someone might have asked him if we were interested in re-signing Owen.

Posted (edited)

Do G&H have to announce their intention to attend a game at the the club they own now?

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reading through other forums replies to that statement, and it seems to me that SOS seem to have lost the backing of an awful lot of people. TLW has been particularly scathing and even RAWK, which has traditionally backed them to the hilt, has been pretty negative

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Do G&H have to announce their intention to attend a game at the the club they own now?

 

it'd be nice to know, for that well placed drawing pin on the seat....

Posted (edited)

I think they need to arrange some form of protest/public event against the owners, they seemed to have concentrated on non ownership issues of late. I joined because they seemed to becoming more focused with the march etc but sadly this appears to have been a bit of a blip.

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reading through other forums replies to that statement, and it seems to me that SOS seem to have lost the backing of an awful lot of people. TLW has been particularly scathing and even RAWK, which has traditionally backed them to the hilt, has been pretty negative

 

I imagine it's because the union are putting tons of effort in to campaigns like the Shields one, but the reason why they were formed, to get rid of the owners, get's a half arsed, pretty pointless statement.

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I imagine it's because the union are putting tons of effort in to campaigns like the Shields one, but the reason why they were formed, to get rid of the owners, get's a half arsed, pretty pointless statement.

 

If they are not dealing with the ownership of the club then I believe their existence is pointless.

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If they are not dealing with the ownership of the club then I believe their existence is pointless.

 

 

The SoS could evolve into something very good indeed, they just need to concentrate on the reason they were set up in the first place, thats why they got all the initial support, other projects and causes should come after that imo. (the shields case is slightly different as there was a deadline to that)

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Ok, so here goes. I haven't been a (regular) poster on this site for a few years now and have watched with increasing disappointment this SoS debate start (as all causes generally do) with great intentions and pretty much a single cause and then get skewed by this good cause or that statement.

What has happened since is a slippery slide into releasing statements such as the Rafa one and now this one...as well as the whole "super-fan-ness" of it.

I am a regular match going red, I love this club and I hate what is happening to it but I cannot reconcile what the SoS is doing either. They don't speak for me (although they seem to think they have the mandate of ALL reds judging by their perceived behaviour) I don't know if Michael Shields is guilty or innocent, so whilst I agree that he has a right to a fair trial (as does everybody) I am not sure why SoS or the club for that matter is going so public with the campaign. I don't care if the SoS thinks that Rafa is the right manager for this club (or not) and my honest response to that statement was "who the f*** do they think they are?"

So whilst I applaud the attempts to sort out the ownership of our club and the commitment of the folks that put the hard work in to set the thing up on this issue they will never get my subscription, I would never want to see a fans representative involved in the day to day running of this club (unless it was somebody like Dalglish / Rush etc) and I think for the sake of all of those involved it would be better to be a single issue (sorting out the club ownership) lobby group than this "union"...

Anyway, I'm sure I'll be slated for this but I care as much about my club as anybody else and want to see things resolved and the yanks out, I don't want "us" to own the club as we are too close to it we couldn't make the right "head" decision as our hearts would win every time....

My first long post here for about 3 years...ah well

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Ok, so here goes. I haven't been a (regular) poster on this site for a few years now and have watched with increasing disappointment this SoS debate start (as all causes generally do) with great intentions and pretty much a single cause and then get skewed by this good cause or that statement.

What has happened since is a slippery slide into releasing statements such as the Rafa one and now this one...as well as the whole "super-fan-ness" of it.

I am a regular match going red, I love this club and I hate what is happening to it but I cannot reconcile what the SoS is doing either. They don't speak for me (although they seem to think they have the mandate of ALL reds judging by their perceived behaviour) I don't know if Michael Shields is guilty or innocent, so whilst I agree that he has a right to a fair trial (as does everybody) I am not sure why SoS or the club for that matter is going so public with the campaign. I don't care if the SoS thinks that Rafa is the right manager for this club (or not) and my honest response to that statement was "who the f*** do they think they are?"

So whilst I applaud the attempts to sort out the ownership of our club and the commitment of the folks that put the hard work in to set the thing up on this issue they will never get my subscription, I would never want to see a fans representative involved in the day to day running of this club (unless it was somebody like Dalglish / Rush etc) and I think for the sake of all of those involved it would be better to be a single issue (sorting out the club ownership) lobby group than this "union"...

Anyway, I'm sure I'll be slated for this but I care as much about my club as anybody else and want to see things resolved and the yanks out, I don't want "us" to own the club as we are too close to it we couldn't make the right "head" decision as our hearts would win every time....

My first long post here for about 3 years...ah well

 

you should post more often. pretty much agree with all of that

Posted
Ok, so here goes. I haven't been a (regular) poster on this site for a few years now and have watched with increasing disappointment this SoS debate start (as all causes generally do) with great intentions and pretty much a single cause and then get skewed by this good cause or that statement.

What has happened since is a slippery slide into releasing statements such as the Rafa one and now this one...as well as the whole "super-fan-ness" of it.

I am a regular match going red, I love this club and I hate what is happening to it but I cannot reconcile what the SoS is doing either. They don't speak for me (although they seem to think they have the mandate of ALL reds judging by their perceived behaviour) I don't know if Michael Shields is guilty or innocent, so whilst I agree that he has a right to a fair trial (as does everybody) I am not sure why SoS or the club for that matter is going so public with the campaign. I don't care if the SoS thinks that Rafa is the right manager for this club (or not) and my honest response to that statement was "who the f*** do they think they are?"

So whilst I applaud the attempts to sort out the ownership of our club and the commitment of the folks that put the hard work in to set the thing up on this issue they will never get my subscription, I would never want to see a fans representative involved in the day to day running of this club (unless it was somebody like Dalglish / Rush etc) and I think for the sake of all of those involved it would be better to be a single issue (sorting out the club ownership) lobby group than this "union"...

Anyway, I'm sure I'll be slated for this but I care as much about my club as anybody else and want to see things resolved and the yanks out, I don't want "us" to own the club as we are too close to it we couldn't make the right "head" decision as our hearts would win every time....

My first long post here for about 3 years...ah well

 

Good post, and if the effect of the 'cull' is that stuff like this doesn't get lost in pages of guff (from both sides, I hasten to add) then it has been well worth it.

 

I agree with pretty much everything you say.

 

I would maybe argue that someone like Dalgish/Rush are in one sense no better qualified to be involved in the day-to-day running than many others who might be considered as a fans representative, but at least they'd have pretty much unanimous backing which would be a start.

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I hope he took a sailboat over, maybe a rowboat, as you know the Big Three here in the US (automakers) got slated for taking Private Planes to testify at Congress.

If he's out there spending money on flights to the uk, and hotels etc, that money could be put back into the club

 

 

*tongue in cheek*

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