Spike Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 THis is pretty sad to read / watch. The guy needs an intervention of sorts. Contains swearing btw http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=876739
Jacks Jackie Jackson Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 You'd need to be a heartless b*****d to not feel sympathy for the poor lad. But there are those who'll gleefully laught at his plight.
New York Red Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 There is going to be a horrible ending to this story one way or the other. He really needs to be institutionalized.
John am Rhein Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Jacks Jackie Jackson said: You'd need to be a heartless b*****d to not feel sympathy for the poor lad. But there are those who'll gleefully laught at his plight. Put me down as a heartless b*stard
Jacks Jackie Jackson Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 John am Rhein said: Put me down as a heartless b*stard Taking ingratiating yourself to the host nation a bit too far?
John am Rhein Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Jacks Jackie Jackson said: Taking ingratiating yourself to the host nation a bit too far? huh?
Dan Posted September 24, 2008 Posted September 24, 2008 New York Red said: There is going to be a horrible ending to this story one way or the other. He really needs to be institutionalized. Heard some really disturbing news tonight related to your first point. I hope its not true
fyds Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 The poor lad is a walking tragedy surrounded by the worst hangers on. He was a very fine footballer and rather thick otherwise - someone should have been watching his back properly.
cymrococh Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 fyds said: The poor lad is a walking tragedy surrounded by the worst hangers on. He was a very fine footballer and rather thick otherwise - someone should have been watching his back properly.I think there's more to it than that, at the very least it looks like he's got a severe personality disorder.
Stevie H Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 absolutely tragic it is, he clearly has severe problems and while he doesn't maybe want help, or know that he needs help, he should be getting it. where's the PFA, the FA, tony bloody adams etc? the game got enough money and exposure from 'gazza' so they should be helping him now.
cymrococh Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) Stevie H said: absolutely tragic it is, he clearly has severe problems and while he doesn't maybe want help, or know that he needs help, he should be getting it. where's the PFA, the FA, tony bloody adams etc? the game got enough money and exposure from 'gazza' so they should be helping him now.agree completely, if he was physically ill I suspect their reaction would be greater. His treatement by the media is also a reflection of it's inherent snobbery. He's a working class northener who likes a drink and is therefore automatically considered 'a bit mad'. The likes of Danny Baker and Chris Evans (a long time ago I know) have contributed to his current state. Edited September 25, 2008 by Paul Caruso
Stevie H Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 the game used him up and spat him out, and he just needs serious help. he needs sectioning since he appears to be a danger to himself and probably to others. contrast the treatment of him with that of paul merson, who was backed by his club and the FA at the time. it's really sad.
Jimi Rojo Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 If you are always surrounded by scroungers and hangers-on who laugh at everything you say and will listen to any old bulls*** if you pick up the bill......you probably finish up like that after the same routine for years and years.
Ronnie Whelan Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) Jimi Rojo said: If you are always surrounded by scroungers and hangers-on who laugh at everything you say and will listen to any old bulls*** if you pick up the bill......you probably finish up like that after the same routine for years and years. From the same Website as the original post. The poor guy. If something is not done fast then it will only go one way. Edited September 25, 2008 by Ronnie Whelan
Guest Snorky Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Gazza should have waited for 6 months and signed for us instead of Spurs.
smithdown Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 I'd like to be more sympathetic towards his plight but then I remember again how he broke the jaw of a girl I know, just for politely knocking him back. He's got quite a mean streak, you know chaps. It might just be that anyone who could have helped him has f*cked him off, although I agree he could have had a different life altogether if he hadn't moved down to that London in the first place.
Cobs Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Paul Caruso said: I think there's more to it than that, at the very least it looks like he's got a severe personality disorder. He's been diagnosed bipolar, is an alcoholic, a gambling addict and has OCD press-wise you'll only ever read he's a pisshead though terrible shame
matty Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 He has been sectioned before IIRC. However, this doesn't guarantee he's going to get the long-term help he desperately needs. You can't force people to undertake treatment for mental health problems unless he committed a serious crime, or went completely psychotic. The streets are littered with people with mental disorders, and not getting treatment. He either needs to submit himself to the NHS for treatment, or have people around him who can help him. Rather than Chris Evans or Danny Baker, it's the likes of five bellies and the other hangers on who must take most of the blame.
Tosh Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 fyds said: The poor lad is a walking tragedy surrounded by the worst hangers on. He was a very fine footballer and rather thick otherwise - someone should have been watching his back properly.where is rentagob Gordon Taylor when he's actually needed?
Hassony Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 matty said: He has been sectioned before IIRC. However, this doesn't guarantee he's going to get the long-term help he desperately needs. You can't force people to undertake treatment for mental health problems unless he committed a serious crime, or went completely psychotic. The streets are littered with people with mental disorders, and not getting treatment. He either needs to submit himself to the NHS for treatment, or have people around him who can help him. Rather than Chris Evans or Danny Baker, it's the likes of five bellies and the other hangers on who must take most of the blame. Its all Hoddle's fault for leaving him out in 98
Falconhoof Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 smithdown said: I'd like to be more sympathetic towards his plight but then I remember again how he broke the jaw of a girl I know, just for politely knocking him back. Was that reported ? Should have served a sentence for that surely ?
smithdown Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Ernest Blenkinsop said: Was that reported ? Should have served a sentence for that surely ? Was about ten years ago all this. It was in a club in London, there were other people around with him who took him off after he'd give her a dig. She didn't even know who he was. Somehow, can't remember how exactly, she got a phone call later off someone asking if she was going to the papers and offering her money to say nothing. This girl was pretty well off herself and told them to eff off.
Chili Palmer Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Going the same way as Best, very sad.
Tommy Cockles Posted September 25, 2008 Posted September 25, 2008 Its a real shame. His book was a good read, fulll of honesty about his problems and not hiding from some uncomfortable truths. As someone who has struggled with alcoholism myself I could relate a lot towards him and his feelings towards drink. It also gave a lot of hope that he was going to be ok, which of course he isn't. At his height one of the best footballers I have ever been priviledged to watch
New York Red Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 DS77 said: Heard some really disturbing news tonight related to your first point. I hope its not true What was that?
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