Maharajkumar of Vizianagram Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) Admittedly Scotland have defied all odds and historically been even more rubbish than England but there were plenty of external reasons for this, most notably the non selection of 'Anglo' players. The list of players they've produced is staggeringly good. Dalglish, Souness, Johnstone, Law, Bremner, White, Hansen and Mackay are surely up there with any eight players England have ever produced? You might argue that Johnstone never proved it in a decent league but the fact that Celtic fans regard him as their greatest ever player, and therefore presumably better than the King, speaks volumes. Then you've got other Scottish league legends like John Greig and Jim Baxter as well as top performers like Leeds' Eddie Gray and our own Ian St.John. Some of you are actually old enough to have seen most of these players play, so take it away old c****, name your all time Scotland and England sides and speculate on which one is better. Edited September 9, 2008 by Aritro
libero Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 GoramMcgrain Hansen Holton GriegJohnstone Mckay Souness BaxterDalglish Lawsubs McCoist,Leighton,Liddle,W Miller,Bremner,Nicol. Just off the top of my head but more than a match for anything Engurland can dredge up.
Cunny Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) it's doubtful Hansen would make a Scotland XI - MacKay, McNeill, Greig, Miller, McLeish to name but a few would probably be ahead of him.I'm not sure who the keeper would be but my XI GK: GoramRB: McGrainLB: GriegCB: MacKayCB: McNeillRW: JohnstoneCM: SounessCM : BremnerLW: BaxterFW : DalglishFW : Law Struggled for a right back, so put Nicol down out of blind bias.edit : I thought McGrain was a LB for some reason.Libero might have some names I've missed. Edited September 9, 2008 by Cunny
Cobs Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Banks Cohen Moore Charlton(J) Wilson Ball Stiles Charlton® Hunt Hurst Peters now feck off, Jocky !
Gomez Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Admittedly Scotland have defied all odds and historically been even more rubbish than England but there were plenty of external reasons for this, most notably the non selection of 'Anglo' players. The list of players they've produced is staggeringly good. Dalglish, Souness, Johnstone, Law, Bremner, White, Hansen and Mackay are surely up there with any eight players England have ever produced? You might argue that Johnstone never proved it in a decent league but the fact that Celtic fans regard him as their greatest ever player, and therefore presumably better than the King, speaks volumes. Then you've got other Scottish league legends like John Greig and Jim Baxter as well as top performers like Leeds' Eddie Gray and our own Ian St.John. Speaks volumes about Celtic fans, yes.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Banks Cohen Moore Charlton(J) Wilson Ball Stiles Charlton® Hunt Hurst Petersnow feck off, Jocky ! 1. Simpson (Celtic)2. Gemmell (Celtic)3. McCreadie (Chelsea)4. Greig (Rangers)5. McKinnon (Rangers)6. Baxter (Sunderland)7. Wallace (Celtic)8. Bremner (Leeds)9. McCalliog (Sheffield Wed)10. Law (Manchester Utd)11. Lennox (Celtic)
Sion Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 JamesJohnsonTerryFerdinandLescottWalcottBarryLampardDowningDefoe Rooney beats everything
Maharajkumar of Vizianagram Posted September 9, 2008 Author Posted September 9, 2008 JamesJohnsonTerryFerdinandLescottWalcottBarryLampardDowningDefoe Rooney beats everything I'm not sure I agree with all the names you've chosen tbh Teddy Sherinham, for instance, was a far superior player to Defoe
Cobs Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 1. Simpson (Celtic)2. Gemmell (Celtic)3. McCreadie (Chelsea)4. Greig (Rangers)5. McKinnon (Rangers)6. Baxter (Sunderland)7. Wallace (Celtic)8. Bremner (Leeds)9. McCalliog (Sheffield Wed)10. Law (Manchester Utd)11. Lennox (Celtic) not good enough to qualify for a World Cup ?
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 not good enough to qualify for a World Cup ? they did your boys though
Cobs Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 they did your boys though a year later and then lost to Northern Ireland who then lost to England
Murphman Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 GoramMcgrain Hansen Holton GriegJohnstone Mckay Souness BaxterDalglish Lawsubs McCoist,Leighton,Liddle,W Miller,Bremner,Nicol. Just off the top of my head but more than a match for anything Engurland can dredge up. Andy Goram the best you've ever had, better than Bill Brown? and 'Big' Jim Holton instead of Buchan! Mind, ferguson left Hansen at home for a world cup when he was in charge, preferring Evans and McLeish as I recall. Must be a Jocko thing.. Anyway, this England team would whup any Jock X1. BanksNealMooreMcFarlandCooperMathewsCharltonEdwardsFinneyDeanOwen
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 I've decided Edwards would have turned out to be s***
_00_deathscar Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 I've heard a lot about Bremner, and Souness of course. Wouldn't those two in midfield be particularly frightening?
Cobs Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 I've heard a lot about Bremner, and Souness of course. Wouldn't those two in midfield be particularly frightening? just get Steve Bennett to ref it and those 2 c**** wouldn't make it out of the tunnel
Murphman Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 it's doubtful Hansen would make a Scotland XI - MacKay, McNeill, Greig, Miller, McLeish to name but a few would probably be ahead of him. Do me a feckin favour Cunny!!
libero Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Andy Goram the best you've ever had, better than Bill Brown? and 'Big' Jim Holton instead of Buchan! Goram is only my personal opinion and from what I have seen. Six foot 2, eyes of blue big Jim Holtons after you.
Woodsyla Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Andy Goram the best you've ever had, better than Bill Brown? and 'Big' Jim Holton instead of Buchan! Mind, ferguson left Hansen at home for a world cup when he was in charge, preferring Evans and McLeish as I recall. Must be a Jocko thing.. Anyway, this England team would whup any Jock X1. BanksNealMooreMcFarlandCooperMathewsCharltonEdwardsFinneyDeanOwen I'm presuming that this is 2001 Owen otherwise I'd rather have Greaves or Clough (B). Isn't modern day football s***
Murphman Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) I'm presuming that this is 2001 Owen otherwise I'd rather have Greaves or Clough (B). Isn't modern day football s*** Clough? Might as well put Steve Bull up, Greavesy fair enough but two things to remember... Owen at 18 was THE hottest prospect of all time, unbelievable, never forget how good he was PLUS there's two mancs in my team. Edited September 9, 2008 by Murphman
Murphman Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Goram is only my personal opinion and from what I have seen. Six foot 2, eyes of blue big Jim Holtons after you. Holton was an oaf, a big lumbering useless toothless manc c*nt. As for keepers, Haffey was the man, Francis Haffey, look him up....
libero Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Holton was an oaf, a big lumbering useless toothless manc c*nt. As for keepers, Haffey was the man, Francis Haffey, look him up.... well you see you are old enough to remember his dad but I have only read books about him.
Ostrich Man Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 an all time Ireland* team would beat both hands down. *granted it would have to be an united Ireland team and allow for the granny rule to be in place.
John am Rhein Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Scotland would win because Scotland's better than England
matty Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 If Andy Goram's the best keeper they've ever had, England would win comfortably.
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