How much will we have available to spend this summer?

[New York Red]

Has there been any gossip about this? I know we will have a pretty good clear out coming and we will generate a bunch of cash from that.

 

Has there been any talk of how much our scumbag owners are putting up?

[mm2259]

  New York Red said:

Has there been any gossip about this? I know we will have a pretty good clear out coming and we will generate a bunch of cash from that.

 

Has there been any talk of how much our scumbag owners are putting up?

 

Yeah, the owners will be putting up f*ck all as usual. It'll be a combination of sales plus what we can get from Ocean Finance.

[fyds]

At this point who knows? We don't even know who will own us for sure by the end of easter, let alone the summer.

[New York Red]

We need to spend 40 million plus this summer.

 

In order to vault in to the top two we need to make some real changes and exchange quantity into quality.

 

Sell Carson, Riise, Finnan, Alonso, Guthrie, Pennant, Kuyt, Crouch, Voronin

 

Maybe sell Auerilio

 

Cut loose Kewell and maybe Hyypia.

 

My guess is that would generate 50 million plus alone.

 

Three great players for that amount could really make the difference.

[floyd the barber]

i cant see us topping what we`ve spent in total on torres,babel and masch..

 

Id be highly suprised if we spent anymore than 30million to be honest..

[tag]

  New York Red said:

We need to spend 40 million plus this summer.

 

In order to vault in to the top two we need to make some real changes and exchange quantity into quality.

 

Sell Carson, Riise, Finnan, Alonso, Guthrie, Pennant, Kuyt, Crouch, Voronin

 

Maybe sell Auerilio

 

Cut loose Kewell and maybe Hyypia.

 

My guess is that would generate 50 million plus alone.

 

Three great players for that amount could really make the difference.

 

 

Sell TWELVE players and buy THREE?

 

Our squad (of 11 outfield players) after all those sale would be:

Reina/Itandje

Arbeloa

Carra, Agger, Skrtel

Insua

Yossi

Gerrard, Masch, Lucas

Babel

Torres

 

Who'd your three players gonna be?

[Lanus]

  New York Red said:

We need to spend 40 million plus this summer.

 

In order to vault in to the top two we need to make some real changes and exchange quantity into quality.

 

Sell Carson, Riise, Finnan, Alonso, Guthrie, Pennant, Kuyt, Crouch, Voronin

 

Maybe sell Auerilio

 

Cut loose Kewell and maybe Hyypia.

 

My guess is that would generate 50 million plus alone.

 

Three great players for that amount could really make the difference.

 

Disagree with loads of that.

 

try and keep carson unless we get a good fee.

 

keep aurelio, alonso... also you wanna cut lose Hyypia? are you insane?

also finnan isnt having the best time but jesus like... as for yer 50mil, not a bloody hope.

[New York Red]

Carson -- 8

Riise -- 6

Finnan -- 2

Alonso -- 14

Guthrie -- 4

Pennant -- 6

Kuyt -- 7

Crouch -- 8

Vornonin -- 2

Auerelio -- 4

 

Not unreasonable don't you think?

 

My three players would be Diego, Benzema and Alves. Add Garay at a stretch.

[McBain]

Sell both our left backs and buy a right back and a centre back?

[Lanus]

  New York Red said:

Carson -- 8

Riise -- 6

Finnan -- 2

Alonso -- 14

Guthrie -- 4

Pennant -- 6

Kuyt -- 7

Crouch -- 8

Vornonin -- 2

Auerelio -- 4

 

Not unreasonable don't you think?

 

My three players would be Diego, Benzema and Alves. Add Garay at a stretch.

 

well thats what the players would sell for if they were playing for a small club who didnt wish to sell, we'd get way less when we went to offload players.

 

Carson for 8, more like 4 id say max. alonso would be harder to call, it would depend on who was interested. Riise wouldnt get 6 though, no way. 3 maybe

 

guthrie, maybe 4 ya but pennant would go quite cheap again in my opinion, not exactly setting the world alight.

Crouch and Kuyt, tough call as crouch never plays and kuyt has lost all his apeal to any club (in my opinion he might be a good buy tho)... but my opinion would mean little as any club would be shy to pay more than a few million for a striker who never scores.

[_00_deathscar]

NYR is mad. Absolutely mad.

[Lee W]

  _00_deathscar said:

NYR is mad. Absolutely mad.

 

Amen.Anyone thinking Alonso, Hyypia and Finnan are surplus needs a sanity check.

 

Shouldn't this be in the NYR New Players Forum anyway ?

[chrisbonnie]

why would you want to sell Alonso?

 

with the system we now use, he`s even more vital then Gerrard, it`d take a hefty fee for me to even consider selling Xabi, 20 million at least

[Mike]

  Lee W said:

Amen.Anyone thinking Alonso, Hyypia and Finnan are surplus needs a sanity check.

 

Shouldn't this be in the NYR New Players Forum anyway ?

 

which one?

[Guest Anders Honoré]

  Lets get Masched said:

i cant see us topping what we`ve spent in total on torres,babel and masch..

 

Id be highly suprised if we spent anymore than 30million to be honest..

 

If we're talking net spend, that would be an awesome investment.

[NeilR]

I think we could expect the same sort of spend as normal (every year we talk about spending £50m , £60m , £70m, but we generally spend around the same) and try to bring in 3 quality players. We could top that up with sales of...

 

Carson -- 6

Riise -- 6

Finnan -- 2

Guthrie -- 3

Pennant -- 4

Kuyt -- 6

Vornonin -- 2

Kewell -- off the wage list

Total= £29

 

And although I'd love the likes of Messi, Kaka, Villa, Aguero, Silva, Eto'o, Alves etc this might be pushing it a little (unless our saviours DIC come good and hand us the blank cheque), I'd be looking to maximise the potential our current formation has, while allowing for Rafa to revert back to 4-4-2 or rest Torres on the occassion. So I'd go for something like this...

 

RB = Lahm £10m (might go to Madrid or ManU though), or Rafinha £8m

LB = Cashly Cole £12m (can be a bit of a prick off field but would be great for us in playing terms. Can he buy his contract out yet?).

Striker / wing forward = Henry £10m (3 good years left in him, would suit our current system, could go up front if Torres rested, unhappy in Spain, likes Liverpool, and knows the premier league). For a guy struggling apparently and not starting always, 19 games, 7 goals, 5 assists in the league isn't too bad.

 

Reina

Lahm Carra/Skirtel Agger Cole

Masch Alonso

Gerrard

Babel Torres Henry

 

Subs = Itandje, Skirtel/Carra, Arbeloa, Hyypia, Insua, Aurelio, Lucas, Benayon, Leto, Crouch, Nemeth

 

So with a total spend of around £32-35m, and recouping £29m of this, I wouldnt think that was a bad summers business, and gives one hell of a team with balance. Cole and Lahm do the jobs they do for their current clubs, or like Evra does for utd, while still being solid at the back, makes it less improtant for us to purchase 2 new wingers, and in the end I'd saythat formation gives us something similar to what utd have now but to me looks far more formidable, and has enough flexibility and cover to revert back to 4-4-2 or rest without too much detriment in my opinion.

[Guest Sabre]

A whole load of fantasy stuff going on here.

 

I can see Carson going. Finnan too if Rafa can secure a younger, fitter version. Then one of Aurelio or Riise. I think Rafa prefers Aurelio but he's never fit so wouldn't be surprised if Riise stayed for another season. Other than that, I think we'll strengthen the full backs with solid players we've never heard of and buy a winger that can play both sides as our main acquisition. I don't have a clue who that will be but I'm sure Rafa has a list of about 10 that he'll whittle down.

[Molby]

this is a pointless thread

 

let's take the net spend challenge shall we?

 

if it's net spend then the answer is zero, so the question should read, "who will Rafa sell and who will he try to buy with the money?"

 

if its gross spend then the answer is " who the hell cares?" or possibly, "I wonder if Rafa will sign a big name or a few little ones?"

 

assuming it's as we are on the ownership front, of course

[Guest Prongsy]

  New York Red said:

We need to spend 40 million plus this summer.

 

In order to vault in to the top two we need to make some real changes and exchange quantity into quality.

 

Sell Carson, Riise, Finnan, Alonso, Guthrie, Pennant, Kuyt, Crouch, Voronin

 

Maybe sell Auerilio

 

Cut loose Kewell and maybe Hyypia.

 

My guess is that would generate 50 million plus alone.

 

Three great players for that amount could really make the difference.

 

Yeah, we'd be f***ed.

 

 

Self half the squad, most of whom play regularly (Alonso, Finnan, Riise, Pennant, Crouch and Aurelio) and get three players in. You've been talking to Mikey, haven't you.

 

 

Selling three of our four fullbacks, leaving us with one player is not smart. Even if you replace them, we'll be massively short in other positions.

 

What a crazy world people live in.

[honourablegeorge]

  New York Red said:

We need to spend 40 million plus this summer.

 

In order to vault in to the top two we need to make some real changes and exchange quantity into quality.

 

Sell Carson, Riise, Finnan, Alonso, Guthrie, Pennant, Kuyt, Crouch, Voronin

 

Maybe sell Auerilio

 

Cut loose Kewell and maybe Hyypia.

 

My guess is that would generate 50 million plus alone.

 

Three great players for that amount could really make the difference.

 

 

Alonso?

 

Every time we put together a run of form, he's in the middle of the pitch.

[Gray - YPC]

£27,211,895

 

HTH

[Knoxy]

What is about football transfers that makes people so insane?

[Lee W]

  Mike said:

which one?

 

[Alonso]

Well whilst we're at it, my squad for next season:

 

Reina

Itandje

 

Alves Carragher Agger Emanuelson

Arbeloa Skrtel Hyypia Insua

 

Mascherano Alonso

Plessis Lucas

 

Villa Gerrard Babel

Yossi Nemeth Capel

 

Torres

Crouch

[Guest thefly]

surely we'd have to pay £30 million for someone to take Voronin off us