Andy Gray last night

[Andy @ Allerton]

Normally the bitterness and hatred of the man regarding LFC annoys me. In fact after 3 minutes and 15 seconds, I turned the sound off on the telly and put Radio City on - but the ridiculous delay of around 4 seconds (!) meant that it was un-doable - I either had to turn the telly off and listen to the radio, listen to silence or listen to the Bitter and (nearly crying at the end) Andy Gray.

 

But then something happened. Usually he angers me with his unrelenting pettiness and obvious bias and disdain for anything LFC - he repeatedly put the boot in - but when he opined that "It would be great if Inter won here tonight" - followed by his rabid and continued crying after the second yellow card (Saying it was the worst decision he'd ever seen) and then going on to describe Liverpool as 'lucky' and then putting across that Benitez was 'just lucky' in Europe before belatedly and grudgingly admitting that benitez might have talent - but certainly had a lot of 'luck' as well.

 

His every word with his Co-hort was obviously bent towards anything Anti-LFC and his desire to see the Italians score and prevail with his pathetic comments throughout actually made me laugh! I literally chuckled my way through the whole game - getting to nearly uproarious laughter towards the end where his increasing 'disappointment' with the Ref and then him nearly crying at the end just put the cherry on the top.

 

Well done Liverpool FC - we've ruined Poor Mr. Gray's week once again.

 

Marvellous.

[Guest Prongsy]

Do you remember the argument you and I had on RAWK about Andy Gray?

 

I take any of the positives back that I said about him and emphasise the negatives. He's got 1000% worse over the past year. If sky were any sort of organisation, they'd look into him. But they're not.

 

A real w*****.

Edited March 12, 2008 by Prongsy

[MFletcher]

His inability to control himself during the Luton away game was pathetic. He was screaming in anguish as Luton knocked the ball across the six yard box.

 

He shouldn't be allowed to commentate on our games because the bias is so blatant.

Edited March 12, 2008 by MFletcher

[Hassony]

His inability to control himself during the Luton away game was pathetic. He was screaming in anguish as Luton knocked the ball across the six yard box.

 

He shouldn't be allowed to commentate on our games, because the bias is so blatant.

 

you can just about accept it as commentators usually go for the underdog, but he is getting worse

 

my theory is that he is still compensating for "you beauty" as it must have upset a lot of his everton fans!

[whitewidow]

his, rafa rests torres "time and again" comment made me kick the cat - he's a joke.

[Mike]

three threads about this!?

[Lee W]

three threads about this!?

 

We need a "Sky are c****" sticky

Edited March 12, 2008 by Lee W

[Tyler]

houghton on rte was even worse

he should show some respect for a club who made him what he is

 

david pleat is about the only summariser who talks sense and trys and explains technical things like movement, tactics

 

graham taylor when i've heard him on radio isn't bad either

[Andy @ Allerton]

houghton on rte was even worse

he should show some respect for a club who made him what he is

 

david pleat is about the only summariser who talks sense and trys and explains technical things like movement, tactics

 

graham taylor when i've heard him on radio isn't bad either

 

 

Was that monkeys c**k Dunphey on RTE last night?

[charlie clown]

his, rafa rests torres "time and again" comment made me kick the cat - he's a joke.

 

I kept thinking when he (and Keys) were endelssly repeating that last night.... 'why doesn't anyone challenge that with the actual facts?' Are the rest of them that clueless? I would guess that of the possible 40-odd games or so Torres could have played this season he's probably not started in about 8, been injured for 10 and started all the rest. I don't know the stats meself but I'd put my house on my guess being nearer the truth than the opinions of the Sky, erm, experts.

Edited March 12, 2008 by charlie clown

[Cobs]

In the League Torres didn't start v

 

Pompey D

Birmingham D

Everton W

Blackburn D

Fulham W

Chelsea D

 

all Comps you can add in

Toulouse x2 2 wins

Besiktas x2 1 win 1 defeat

Cardiff W

Luton D

Havant W

Barnsley L

 

 

and that's it

[D.Boon]

I kept thinking when he (and Keys) were endelssly repeating that last night.... 'why doesn't anyone challenge that with the actual facts?' Are the rest of them that clueless? I would guess that of the possible 40-odd games or so Torres could have played this season he's probably not started in about 8, been injured for 10 and started all the rest. I don't know the stats meself but I'd put my house on my guess being nearer the truth than the opinions of the Sky, erm, experts.

 

The thing is Souness and Redknapp were letting him away with it. It seems to have become fact. What are the actual stats on Torres starts?

 

Kaiser?

[D.Boon]

In the League Torres didn't start v

 

Pompey D

Birmingham D

Everton W

Blackburn D

Fulham W

Chelsea D

 

all Comps you can add in

Toulouse x2 2 wins

Besiktas x2 1 win 1 defeat

Cardiff W

Luton D

Havant W

Barnsley L

and that's it

 

How many was he injured for?

[Mike]

In the League Torres didn't start v

 

Pompey D

Birmingham D

Everton W

Blackburn D

Fulham W

Chelsea D

 

all Comps you can add in

Toulouse x2 2 wins

Besiktas x2 1 win 1 defeat

Cardiff W

Luton D

Havant W

Barnsley L

and that's it

 

 

he was injured for blackburn and chelsea wasn't he? so we 'could' be 4 points better off and still in the fa cup.

[Guest Ant]

three threads about this!?

 

Yeah,

 

Seriously now.

 

We won Inter Milan, I couldn't give a s*** what Nelson Mandella would have to say on the matter, never mind Andy Fecking Gray.

[Guest Prongsy]

We won Inter Milan

 

We'll never get them in the trophy cabinet, though.

[Mike]

Yeah,

 

Seriously now.

 

We won Inter Milan, I couldn't give a s*** what Nelson Mandella would have to say on the matter, never mind Andy Fecking Gray.

 

you are posting in all 3 tho kid

[Jacko]

He was much worse than normal last night slaggin us off, the ref off and seemed genuinely annoyed that we were going through. Last night it was unprofessional. end of

[theredfella]

Normally the bitterness and hatred of the man regarding LFC annoys me. In fact after 3 minutes and 15 seconds, I turned the sound off on the telly and put Radio City on - but the ridiculous delay of around 4 seconds (!) meant that it was un-doable - I either had to turn the telly off and listen to the radio, listen to silence or listen to the Bitter and (nearly crying at the end) Andy Gray.

 

But then something happened. Usually he angers me with his unrelenting pettiness and obvious bias and disdain for anything LFC - he repeatedly put the boot in - but when he opined that "It would be great if Inter won here tonight" - followed by his rabid and continued crying after the second yellow card (Saying it was the worst decision he'd ever seen) and then going on to describe Liverpool as 'lucky' and then putting across that Benitez was 'just lucky' in Europe before belatedly and grudgingly admitting that benitez might have talent - but certainly had a lot of 'luck' as well.

 

His every word with his Co-hort was obviously bent towards anything Anti-LFC and his desire to see the Italians score and prevail with his pathetic comments throughout actually made me laugh! I literally chuckled my way through the whole game - getting to nearly uproarious laughter towards the end where his increasing 'disappointment' with the Ref and then him nearly crying at the end just put the cherry on the top.

 

Well done Liverpool FC - we've ruined Poor Mr. Gray's week once again.

 

Marvellous.

 

Did he actually say that?

 

If so, that is a disgrace, especially from a broadcaster who's paid a lot of money to essentially remain neutral.

[Tyler]

Was that monkeys c**k Dunphey on RTE last night?

 

yeah - they didn't have much time and he didn't say much

 

main point was that money in england means that english clubs can buy better players

 

20-25 years ago torres would have been in italy and ibramovich in england

 

lazy really

 

have stopped watching them because what they say is tired and same stuff rehashed

 

punditry should be about explaining technical details to the normal punter, analysing key moments with some insight but it turns into a lazy rerunning of conventional wisdom such as rotation, zonal defence, notions of who is and isn't a good player not based on form but on reputation or previous utterings

 

i'm sick of giles talking about his day etc

in his day games were slower, diet not important and players played because they got cortisone injections in hips and knees that mean some of them can barely walk now

[Guest Ant]

you are posting in all 3 tho kid

 

Touche

[Mondavi]

Normally the bitterness and hatred of the man regarding LFC annoys me. In fact after 3 minutes and 15 seconds, I turned the sound off on the telly and put Radio City on - but the ridiculous delay of around 4 seconds (!) meant that it was un-doable - I either had to turn the telly off and listen to the radio, listen to silence or listen to the Bitter and (nearly crying at the end) Andy Gray.

 

But then something happened. Usually he angers me with his unrelenting pettiness and obvious bias and disdain for anything LFC - he repeatedly put the boot in - but when he opined that "It would be great if Inter won here tonight" - followed by his rabid and continued crying after the second yellow card (Saying it was the worst decision he'd ever seen) and then going on to describe Liverpool as 'lucky' and then putting across that Benitez was 'just lucky' in Europe before belatedly and grudgingly admitting that benitez might have talent - but certainly had a lot of 'luck' as well.

 

His every word with his Co-hort was obviously bent towards anything Anti-LFC and his desire to see the Italians score and prevail with his pathetic comments throughout actually made me laugh! I literally chuckled my way through the whole game - getting to nearly uproarious laughter towards the end where his increasing 'disappointment' with the Ref and then him nearly crying at the end just put the cherry on the top.

 

Well done Liverpool FC - we've ruined Poor Mr. Gray's week once again.

 

Marvellous.

 

my thoughts exactly. I'm well and truly over all the s**** spouted by keys/gray/merson and others. I now equate the level of their bitterness to the corresponding success of our team. The more gutted they sound, the more successful we are.

 

Carry on Andy Gray & Co, your pain is our gain.

[Guest Phil Eel]

Normally the bitterness and hatred of the man regarding LFC annoys me. In fact after 3 minutes and 15 seconds, I turned the sound off on the telly and put Radio City on - but the ridiculous delay of around 4 seconds (!) meant that it was un-doable - I either had to turn the telly off and listen to the radio, listen to silence or listen to the Bitter and (nearly crying at the end) Andy Gray.

 

But then something happened. Usually he angers me with his unrelenting pettiness and obvious bias and disdain for anything LFC - he repeatedly put the boot in - but when he opined that "It would be great if Inter won here tonight" - followed by his rabid and continued crying after the second yellow card (Saying it was the worst decision he'd ever seen) and then going on to describe Liverpool as 'lucky' and then putting across that Benitez was 'just lucky' in Europe before belatedly and grudgingly admitting that benitez might have talent - but certainly had a lot of 'luck' as well.

 

His every word with his Co-hort was obviously bent towards anything Anti-LFC and his desire to see the Italians score and prevail with his pathetic comments throughout actually made me laugh! I literally chuckled my way through the whole game - getting to nearly uproarious laughter towards the end where his increasing 'disappointment' with the Ref and then him nearly crying at the end just put the cherry on the top.

 

Well done Liverpool FC - we've ruined Poor Mr. Gray's week once again.

 

Marvellous.

 

The worst one was during the first half when we got a free kick in our box for a foul on Skrtel. The replay shows the Inter player had Skrtel in a headlock, and Skrtel is trying to wrest his arm from around his head and old fat head says, 'six of one, half a dozen of the other for me there' What an absolute tw.....erp

[HL5]

Well done Liverpool FC - we've ruined Poor Mr. Gray's week once again.

 

Marvellous.

 

Fiorentina, hopefully, will ruin it further for him.

[Coyler]

If sky were any sort of organisation, they'd look into him. But they're not.

Doesn't he have loads of shares in Sky, though? Think he has some level of editorial input as well.

 

my theory is that he is still compensating for "you beauty" as it must have upset a lot of his everton fans!

Definitely.