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Rafa's future : The emerging irony

David Hodgson

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David Hodgson

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Back in October Hicks looked to be Rafa's executioner apparent. Now, there's a scenario fast emerging whereby he could be Rafa's best hope of staying in the Liverpool job.

 

G & H's public undermining of the manager has to an extent made the Liverpool job something of a poisoned chalice, whilst they remain in charge. Even if they want to rid themselves of Rafa they have perhaps left themselves in a position whereby he remains the only candidate worthy of the job, that they could attract.

 

DIC by contrast, may well want to start afresh with their own man, and have the resources to offer a hugely attractive package to any new man (in terms of salary, and transfer funds), and could possibly attract a candidate that G & H couldn't, like...erm...he whom we can't mention.

 

Could it be, then, that the longer G & H stay at LFC the longer Rafa stays too ?

 

All conjecture, but not an outlandish scenario.

MFletcher

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They'll give Rafa time and backing should they takeover.

 

DIC have a history of backing incumbent management. They won't want to rock the boat as soon as they come in, especially with the way the Yanks have been villified for their handling of such things.

John am Rhein

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Some truth in the above.

 

I certainly think we stand far less chance of replacing Benitez with a someone even as good as him, let alone someone better, while the uncertainty over the club's future ownership remains.

Keita

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Have you read the quotes in the Sunday Mirror from Tom hicks Junior? about his imminent move to Liverpool to live, seems like they are here to stay which will benefit Rafa.

Rimbeux

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Have you read the quotes in the Sunday Mirror from Tom hicks Junior? about his imminent move to Liverpool to live, seems like they are here to stay which will benefit Rafa.

 

Being lined up as a shield?

 

I cant see why long term. There's a definite move to line him up as a Hicks ally, how complicit he is in that is debatable.

Kahnee

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Have you read the quotes in the Sunday Mirror from Tom hicks Junior? about his imminent move to Liverpool to live, seems like they are here to stay which will benefit Rafa.

 

Is he moving in to Foster's gaff?

Billy Dane

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If Hicks is here to stay and Rafa wants to keep his job, it's in his interests to demonstrate support for Tom and Tom Jr as we have started to see. Of course it would also help to secure 4th place and progress as far as possible in the CL.

Guest Ant

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Very good question mate and point well made.

 

With G & H We can look at it two ways

 

A: They want to make a profit, but a profit doesn't need to equate to success

B: They want to make a profit, and by a profit they want to make Liverpool a success

 

I have always looked at them falling under A because the way they went for Klinsmann who is indeed a yes man shows that they don't like/agree with Benitez.

 

However as you have said Benitez is the only viable option of which they have.

 

Compared with the DIC......

Guest JV

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f***'s sake ant, since when did klinsmann become 'indeed a yes man'. he appears to be an absolute gentleman and completely professional.

Know your forum bulls*** sonny

David Hodgson

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I'm sure this has been discussed in detail in other threads

 

It must have been, but I needed to draw attention to myself by starting a thread.

 

Ideally we'd just have four or five hundred page threads, with minimalist titles such as 'the Manager-discuss' or 'the football and all related issues thread'. Then those damn ego maniacs would be kept in check.

David Hodgson

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They'll give Rafa time and backing should they takeover.

 

DIC have a history of backing incumbent management. They won't want to rock the boat as soon as they come in, especially with the way the Yanks have been villified for their handling of such things.

 

What's their history on backing incumbants ?

charlie clown

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Klinsmann who is indeed a yes man shows that they don't like/agree with Benitez.

 

 

f***'s sake ant, since when did klinsmann become 'indeed a yes man'. he appears to be an absolute gentleman and completely professional.

 

I once heard him say 'Yes' in answer to a question in an interview. What more proof do you need?

Archangel

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Is it just not possible that the americans were telling the truth about Klinsmann being insurance

 

oh and the point about Rafa being more secure with hicks than DIC I'd say is absolutely spot on

 

DIC wouldn't necessarily cut him loose but neither would they feel any particular loyalty towards retaining him, he's not their man

Archangel

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http://www.mausergroup.com/en/press/27.html?view=10 - "It is in line with DIC's strategy that involves backing incumbent management and investing in the businesses we acquire. "

 

It was also on Al Ansari's profile on www.dubaiic.com. That's been changed recently though.

 

Either way, it seems to be one of the business practices they trumpet.

 

As long as they have faith in the incumbent manager of course

 

And you are in danger of succumbing to their pr there

David Hodgson

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As long as they have faith in the incumbent manager of course

 

And you are in danger of succumbing to their pr there

 

I think so. There's a big difference between a business's management team, and a football team manager. The measurement of success and failure is much more black and white, as managers are judged purely on results of football matches.

 

I think any sane analyst would have to say that the case for Rafa staying or going is pretty 50-50, and DIC would be negligent if they weren't considering options other than Rafa.

 

The case for keeping Rafa is stronger for Hicks, firstly because he'll have the tougher job than DIC would, in attracting a viable alternative, and secondly because his standing with the fans now seems inextricably linked to Rafa staying.

 

I don't DIC would face a massive fan backlash if they came in and saked Rafa.

MFletcher

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I think so. There's a big difference between a business's management team, and a football team manager. The measurement of success and failure is much more black and white, as managers are judged purely on results of football matches.

 

I think any sane analyst would have to say that the case for Rafa staying or going is pretty 50-50, and DIC would be negligent if they weren't considering options other than Rafa.

 

The case for keeping Rafa is stronger for Hicks, firstly because he'll have the tougher job than DIC would, in attracting a viable alternative, and secondly because his standing with the fans now seems inextricably linked to Rafa staying.

 

I don't DIC would face a massive fan backlash if they came in and saked Rafa.

 

Regrettably all we have to go on is information that is in the public arena. Everything in this topic is conjecture and speculation.

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The only emerging irony I can see is that people are buying into Hicks' crisis management PR.

 

Aye, everyone thought Hicks was the bad guy and Gillet the good guy. It appears to me that Hicks is still the bad guy but Gillet is the badder guy :(

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