johngibo YPC Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/tm_head...-name_page.html
Cobs Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 well in, Rafa. I'm not saying it's the Sunday Sun or anything like that but people really should boycott the NOTW cos it's a pile of f*cking schite.
Redkop Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/tm_head...-name_page.html Too right he should take action against that lying shower of s****!
lawrie Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Hope the c**** dont print a postage stamp retraction to get out of it. Make 'em sweat Rafa
Rahul Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I would love a law passed in this country which made any newspaper have to retract a story on the same page and same size as the original story was printed. Would make the c*nts think twice.
TheLa Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Is right, Rafa. Don't accept any s**** apologies off them, put the slimey f***** out of work.
Gunga Din Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 his contempt for both the S*n and NOTW before the Chelsea game was very obvious. NOTW, is a s*** paper, and i know the debate rages about should it be boycotted because of its association with the S*N, but it should just be boycotted for being s***.
pipnasty Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 But what about THE APOLOGY? It gets so confusing sometimes.
Guy_Incognito Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I thought his comments before the Chelsea game were decent, this is much better. well in, Rafa. I'm not saying it's the Sunday Sun or anything like that but people really should boycott the NOTW cos it's a pile of f*cking schite. Well yeah, but we can't go boycotting everything that's rubbish now, can we. [insert gag about standard of football this season]
Rory Fitzgerald Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Firslty, let me say that I have not read the article, so I am relying totalling on the Echo's reporting of it. From their synopsis - it looks like Rafa is not on the steadiest of grounds ? QuestionThe question, when translated into English, read: "The owners were lacking faith in your work a couple of months ago when the team was six points behind the leaders with a game in hand. "Has this issue influenced the progress of the team?" AnswerTo which Benitez - according to a translation in the hands of his solicitor, Richard Green, of leading Liverpool law firm Hill Dickinson – replied: “As a coach you could say yes. "It would be the perfect excuse, but I don't want to use it. "What is clear is that at that time we were in a good position and the team was at the point of winning many of the matches that we have drawn and that is what brought us down." HeadlineBut when the News of the World ran the story the following day the headline accompanying it said: "It's Your Fault: Rafa In New Blast At Owners". Reason for Action The ECHO understands the claim is based on the potential of: (a) Mr Benitez having been libelled by the article.As I said, I have not read the article but from the Echo's reporting of the translation and the headline - by journalist standards - they match despite Rafa saying he did not want to use it as an excuse. (b) False attribution - ie, that it used quotes that Mr Benitez did not say or that were taken so far out of context that they distorted the whole article.Fair enough, but this is industry standard for the tabloids.
johngibo YPC Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 I would love a law passed in this country which made any newspaper have to retract a story on the same page and same size as the original story was printed. Would make the c*nts think twice. Or a law which means you can't say 'said to the news of the world' when they haven't
Rimbeux Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Firslty, let me say that I have not read the article, so I am relying totalling on the Echo's reporting of it. From their synopsis - it looks like Rafa is not on the steadiest of grounds ? QuestionThe question, when translated into English, read: "The owners were lacking faith in your work a couple of months ago when the team was six points behind the leaders with a game in hand. "Has this issue influenced the progress of the team?" AnswerTo which Benitez - according to a translation in the hands of his solicitor, Richard Green, of leading Liverpool law firm Hill Dickinson – replied: “As a coach you could say yes. "It would be the perfect excuse, but I don't want to use it. "What is clear is that at that time we were in a good position and the team was at the point of winning many of the matches that we have drawn and that is what brought us down." HeadlineBut when the News of the World ran the story the following day the headline accompanying it said: "It's Your Fault: Rafa In New Blast At Owners". Reason for Action The ECHO understands the claim is based on the potential of: (a) Mr Benitez having been libelled by the article.As I said, I have not read the article but from the Echo's reporting of the translation and the headline - by journalist standards - they match despite Rafa saying he did not want to use it as an excuse. (b) False attribution - ie, that it used quotes that Mr Benitez did not say or that were taken so far out of context that they distorted the whole article.Fair enough, but this is industry standard for the tabloids. They didn't use the whole quote, they left out the bit where he said 'but I dont want to use it', and printed his answer as "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew. "So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders. "If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.
lawrie Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 I think they also added a couple of fictitious sentences which altered the context completely
fyds Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Bascombe's contacts (such as they may be) may well have just stopped answering the phone.
Andy @ Allerton Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Well in Rafa. And it IS the Sunday S*n
stressederic Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 his contempt for both the S*n and NOTW before the Chelsea game was very obvious. NOTW, is a s*** paper, and i know the debate rages about should it be boycotted because of its association with the S*N, but it should just be boycotted for being s***. Is the correct answer. The fact that the News of the World isn't covered by the official boycott doesn't mean you should read it. Sunday S*n or not, it's still a s*** paper.
fyds Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Well in Rafa. And it IS the Sunday S*nOn a purely presonal level, I agree - it's also total sh*t anyway.
Kahnee Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Well in Rafa. And it IS the Sunday S*nDon't start that again, because it isn't Agree with Cobs, it's not a great paper - but then find any tabloid with sports journalists you'd actually trust. For too long now, football writers (don't know about other sports, don't follow any) have written what they want safe in the knowledge no one can be arsed to sue - transfer stories, fallings out, they can all be fictious and they get away with it. Raz - current guidelines state that all apologies have to be on the same page as the original article. Sadly, that's only a guideline. We're some way off regulating the press through legislation, and I hope it stays that way.
TheLa Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Don't start that again, because it isn't It is though, isn't it
Kahnee Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 It is though, isn't it It would be. If it wasn't. Which it is. So it isn't. See?
Ronnie Whelan Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 He said: "It is no surprise. Everybody in Liverpool knows that there are two newspapers that you cannot trust. This is one of them. Take it from the man himself.
TheLa Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 It would be. If it wasn't. Which it is. So it isn't. See? You've baffled me with your legal mumbo jumbo It is, though.
Kahnee Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 You've baffled me with your legal mumbo jumbo It is, though. Only it isn't
Alonso Posted February 13, 2008 Posted February 13, 2008 Fair play to Rafa he's certainly fed up of taking any more rubbish from agenda writing journos. I just hope this isn't another distraction for him as we really are getting to the business end of the season and need everyone 100% focussed for the FA Cup, CL and push for 4th.
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