Lou Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 So who has enhanced their reputations in the last 7 days and who has lost out? Winners: Our fans - a great show of red strength on Wednesday and done in the usual classy mannerRafa - albeit that he shouldn't have gone public with this because it's not the Liverpool wayThe players - kept their heads down and turned in a couple of great results Neutral: Parry - where has he been? Hopefully he's been trying to smooth things over quietly out of the gaze of the media. Liverpool Football Club - not the greatest week in the history of Liverpool FC but everyone really pulled together on Wednesday night Negative Gillett - not sure about this one (maybe a neutral) Most of the negative soundbites appear to have been coming from the Hicks camp. But why wasn't he around for such a big European game?Hick - his image has taken a serious nosedive amongst the fans and, like Gillett, where was he on Wednesday?Bascombe - does he really have any genuine inside info any more or did he lose that before he fell out with GH. The story of Rafa being replaced by Jose didn't even make sense (getting rid of one manager for mouthing off and replacing him with the ultimate gob on legs)
TheLa Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I'd move Gillett to neutral (To be fair to him, he's said and done nothing) and Parry to negative (Because he's said and done nothing).
fyds Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Enhanced : Rafa with the fans, probably with the players.Molby, as despite everything, he actually hasn't imploded or shot anyone yet, let alone sacked Ant Neutral : Parry - though the Echo says he sorted it out with Rafa ahead of the Porto game. had he done this in public, wrapped in a Liverbird flag with a spotlight illuminating his afro, he could be in the 'enhanced' category - and some posters would choke on their own tongue.George Gillett - we don't really know what part he may have had in any of this, as few real facts were available. Negative : Tom Hicks so far as the fans go. Didn't handle his end all that well to say the least, but that may be a culture clash issue as much as anything. Rafa with some journo's (Brian Reade notably) and some ex-players who thought he should have not done that now infamous PC in the manner he chose. They still all wanted him as manager though.
Tones Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I think the fact that Rick Parry has decided not to go public in all this is a good thing. We havent done things in the media before and im glad he has decided not to again.
fyds Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I'd move Gillett to neutral (To be fair to him, he's said and done nothing) and Parry to negative (Because he's said and done nothing).Thing is. Parry has said things in a meeting with Rafa that seems to have calmed things down, though as this meeting was not public or the minutes printed, we don't know what that entailed exactly, though some seem to think it must have been terrible or never happened and Parry is a total one and probably killed Baby Jesus. Gillett - I agree, except we don't know what he has said and done, but he doesn't seem to have been fueling the fire so gets the benefit of the doubt as at least a possible peacemaker.
fyds Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 (edited) I think the fact that Rick Parry has decided not to go public in all this is a good thing. We havent done things in the media before and im glad he has decided not to again.Couldn't agree more. People can't complain about not being done in 'The Liverpool way' and then complain when it finally is. Given the passion and fiery character of one Mr Bill Shankly, does anyone seriously think that in nearly 15years in charge he didn't have a run-in with the board about similar issues or more? Thing is, if we did - we didn't get to hear about them. Edited November 30, 2007 by fyds
RP Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Winners Us RafaThe Team By default that means LFC have been winners Neutral Moores LosersParryHicksGillettBascombe
Benito7 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Winners Us RafaThe Team By default that means LFC have been winnersNeutral MooresLosersParryHicksGillettBascombe How Bascombe is a loser for breaking the story in the first place I don't know.
RP Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 How Bascombe is a loser for breaking the story in the first place I don't know. Mourinho has been named as our new Manager??? I must have missed that.
TheLa Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 How Bascombe is a loser for breaking the story in the first place I don't know. 'Cause he's a horrible, sun loving g*******. And there was no evidence to suggest that Rafa was getting sacked and Mourinho was going to replace him. His whole article was typical sensationalist b******s.
Frosty Jack Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Bascombe wanted to scare the fans into a mass show of support for the manager, to strengthen his position.
Cunny Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Bascombe's story did say Rafa to be sacked by the end of the season, so he's got time on his side.Hope to feck he's wrong like.
sutty Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 'Cause he's a horrible, sun loving g*******. And there was no evidence to suggest that Rafa was getting sacked and Mourinho was going to replace him. His whole article was typical sensationalist b******s. The NotW is not the rag. It isn't boycotted. I don't read it, but it isn't the s*n and never has been It's s***, but using the emotive reaction to the rag is out of order. You are basically using that as a stick to beat Bascombe with. It is wrong.
Cunny Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 'Cause he's a horrible, sun loving g*******. And there was no evidence to suggest that Rafa was getting sacked and Mourinho was going to replace him. His whole article was typical sensationalist b******s. The fact that the owners have not come out and said he's not getting sacked despite issuing two press statements, suggests Bascombe's story cannot be discounted out of hand. The rest of the press (including The Echo, who chose not to run with it) seem to have been briefed the same thing. Are Steven Gerrard and Michael Owen sun loving g******* as well?
sutty Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 The fact that the owners have not come out and said he's not getting sacked despite issuing two press statements, suggests Bascombe's story cannot be discounted out of hand. The rest of the press (including The Echo, who chose not to run with it) seem to have been briefed the same thing. Are Steven Gerrard and Michael Owen sun loving g******* as well? The s*n stuff really gets on my f***ing nerves
Tones Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I think thats still open to debate (although i have no wish to start that sort of thread). many people, including S*n readers across the country, believe it is the sunday edition of the rag. I wouldnt buy it, read it, or believe anythin in it myself. Doesnt matter who the journalist is.
sutty Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I think thats still open to debate (although i have no wish to start that sort of thread). many people, including S*n readers across the country, believe it is the sunday edition of the rag. I wouldnt buy it, read it, or believe anythin in it myself. Doesnt matter who the journalist is. But that's not the point If you read the NotW it is your choice. It isn't part of the boycott. Using the s*n argument and the emotions that come with it is plain stupid.
usualsuspect Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Thing is. Parry has said things in a meeting with Rafa that seems to have calmed things down, though as this meeting was not public or the minutes printed, we don't know what that entailed exactly, though some seem to think it must have been terrible or never happened and Parry is a total one and probably killed Baby Jesus. Gillett - I agree, except we don't know what he has said and done, but he doesn't seem to have been fueling the fire so gets the benefit of the doubt as at least a possible peacemaker. I would like to think any communications (press release) from Hicks were on behalf of the Chairmen so wherever Hicks goes, so should Gillette. Either way Gillette is co-responsible either tacitly or intacitly.
IgPig Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Its pretty evident there was truth in the Bascombe story - albeit dressed up in the usual NOTW "world exclusive" nonsense.
Tones Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 But that's not the point If you read the NotW it is your choice. It isn't part of the boycott. Using the s*n argument and the emotions that come with it is plain stupid. Well yeah i know what you mean. but because it isnt boycotted doesnt mean its not linked to the s*n.
sutty Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Well yeah i know what you mean. but because it isnt boycotted doesnt mean its not linked to the s*n. It isn't linked though It's perceived to be, but it isn't. No more than sky, or the times etc are anyway.
Kahnee Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I think thats still open to debate No it isn't many people, including S*n readers across the country, believe it is the sunday edition of the rag. Many people are wrong
Tones Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Its pretty evident there was truth in the Bascombe story - albeit dressed up in the usual NOTW "world exclusive" nonsense. I think there were an many untruths as there were truths.
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