how would we cope without the following.

[ricflairandy]

How do you guys think we would cope without rafa, reina, torres, alonso, mascherano, kuyt , agger and benayoun?

[Cobs]

depends who replaced them, doesn't it?

[ricflairandy]

ok, out of who is available, who is better than rafa, torres, reina, alonso , mascherano and agger in their positions.

[Guest spk]

How do you guys think we would cope without rafa, reina, torres, alonso, mascherano, kuyt , agger and benayoun?

 

 

valid pont else

[Des]

depends who replaced them, doesn't it?

 

Very blasé Cobs. If a bunch of Chelsea tw ats folowed Mourinho you would, presumably, be made up?

[Cobs]

Very blasé Cobs. If a bunch of Chelsea tw ats folowed Mourinho you would, presumably, be made up?

if we then won the title you would, presumably, be gutted?

 

 

and as for blasé what do you expect to a question like that?

[Knox_Harrington]

if we then won the title you would, presumably, be gutted?

If Rafa gets the sack under these circumstances I probably wouldn't be there.

[Des]

if we then won the title you would, presumably, be gutted?

and as for blasé what do you expect to a question like that?

 

Because I don't think you can swap Mourinho for Rafa, Terry for Carra, Makelele for Alonso, Lampard for Gerrard, Drogba for Torres and still think we're talking about Liverpool.

 

And as for Rafa doing wrong by standing up to "his bosses"....in terms of what it takes to bring us forward in football terms, he is the one and only boss and HicksGillett and any assorted moneymen Yank f***wits would do well to learn that. If Parry isn't making that much clear to them then he isn't any better than a self-interested s****bag who couldn't find his a****** with both hands.

[Knox_Harrington]

And as for Rafa doing wrong by standing up to "his bosses"....in terms of what it takes to bring us forward in football terms, he is the one and only boss and HicksGillett and any assorted moneymen Yank f***wits would do well to learn that. If Parry isn't making that much clear to them then he isn't any better than a self-interested s****bag who couldn't find his a****** with both hands.

There can only be one boss at a functioning football club. Prefect example: Mourinho's best year at Chelsea was his first when he was the boss and all were delighted to have him. Things dropped a bit in his second as the interfering began in earnest. Third year things are getting worse and he went in his fourth as Abramovitch gave team talks.

 

There can only be one boss.

[Cobs]

Because I don't think you can swap Mourinho for Rafa, Terry for Carra, Makelele for Alonso, Lampard for Gerrard, Drogba for Torres and still think we're talking about Liverpool.

well, Carra and Gerrard leaving wasn't mentioned neither was every player being replaced by ones currently at Chelsea - the idea of that happening is quite bizarre

 

 

And as for Rafa doing wrong by standing up to "his bosses"....in terms of what it takes to bring us forward in football terms, he is the one and only boss and HicksGillett and any assorted moneymen Yank f***wits would do well to learn that. If Parry isn't making that much clear to them then he isn't any better than a self-interested s****bag who couldn't find his a****** with both hands.

as for that anyone would think you've been drinking

[Knox_Harrington]

as for that anyone would think you've been drinking

Don't really see what's unreasonable there. Why isn't Parry making it clear to them what it is they are doing?

[Cobs]

Don't really see what's unreasonable there. Why isn't Parry making it clear to them what it is they are doing?

i thought it was totally unconnected to the thread meself

[Des]

i thought it was totally unconnected to the thread meself

 

What premise do you think might be the reason for us losing the players mentioned in the opening post? If Rick Parry isn't explaining to our American benefactors why they would be making a grave error in dismissing Rafa Benitez (as it is rumoured they are considering) then what exactly is his function within the club?

 

The fact that all this has made it into the public domain is not the fault of our manager.

[mooks]

And as for Rafa doing wrong by standing up to "his bosses"....in terms of what it takes to bring us forward in football terms, he is the one and only boss and HicksGillett and any assorted moneymen Yank f***wits would do well to learn that. If Parry isn't making that much clear to them then he isn't any better than a self-interested s****bag who couldn't find his a****** with both hands.

That is exactly right. "Cobs" and his ilk seem to only see the world through a master-servant lens. It isn't like Rafa is an employee in a bank or a family grocery.

 

In our football culture the supporters rule. Rafa's primary responsibility is to us not the guys who came in from nowhere a few months ago. This isn't about stroking their ego no matter how much NYR tries to tell us that this is their 'culture'.

 

That is my view on it and I am not taking any of this master-servant rubbish. Rafael Benitez is a hero for letting us know what is gong on.

[Stevie H]

based on the thread starter's history of not posting s****, i for one would take this semi-seriously.

[growler]

as for the mourinho stuff, his first year was players that were there or agreed already. As he started buying players, the

[growler]

as for the mourinho stuff, his first year was players that were there or agreed already. As he started buying players, the quality of their play dropped, eventually resulting in no young players and a inefficient squad.

[John am Rhein]

How do you guys think we would cope without rafa, reina, torres, alonso, mascherano, kuyt , agger and benayoun?

 

Benitez, Reina, Alsonso, Mascherano and Agger would be very big losses. The others are very good players too.

[IgPig]

They are all on long contracts, cept Masch

Edited November 27, 2007 by Post Kuytal Glow

[Gunga Din]

i think to suggest that players have only joined because of the manger is hugely disrespectful to the players and LFC. we are one of the top clubs in the world, in an elite band of about 7 or 8 clubs. playing for Liverppool is the pinnacle of most players careers.

[John am Rhein]

i think to suggest that players have only joined because of the manger is hugely disrespectful to the players and LFC. we are one of the top clubs in the world, in an elite band of about 7 or 8 clubs. playing for Liverppool is the pinnacle of most players careers.

 

We didn't have any Spanish players before Benitez and it's likely we won't have any within a few years of his departure.

 

What's more if we try and hold them to their long term contracts against their will, we'll probably do ourselves more harm than good.

[Hassony]

We didn't have any Spanish players before Benitez and it's likely we won't have any within a few years of his departure.

 

What's more if we try and hold them to their long term contracts against their will, we'll probably do ourselves more harm than good.

 

and also, what if the new manager didn't fancy them and wanted to rebulid his own team

[beejay]

I would hope that if the unthinkable happens and Rafa goes, we would have a similar situation as Chelsea when Mourinho was sacked ie the fans & team in uproar, but they carry on in a professional way, at least in the short term.

 

I fear the worst, I really do. Can you imagine if Rafa went to a rival and the likes of reina, alonso & torres went with him?

[Cobs]

What premise do you think might be the reason for us losing the players mentioned in the opening post? If Rick Parry isn't explaining to our American benefactors why they would be making a grave error in dismissing Rafa Benitez (as it is rumoured they are considering) then what exactly is his function within the club?

 

The fact that all this has made it into the public domain is not the fault of our manager.

i thought the premise was weird, i don't see us losing the 7 players mentioned if Rafa goes - how many have Chelsea lost sice Mourinho went?

 

 

i've no idea what Parry does day-to-day, doubt i'm alone in that

[Gunga Din]

We didn't have any Spanish players before Benitez and it's likely we won't have any within a few years of his departure.

 

What's more if we try and hold them to their long term contracts against their will, we'll probably do ourselves more harm than good.

 

Raf bought from te markets he knew well, all managers do it. look how man Sciots Furguson had at Old Trafford at teh start, or French Wenger and Houllier signed. Managers sign players from markets theyknow. Rafa is no different. Christ, didnt Graeme Souness take players like dean Saunders and Don Hutchinsonto Turkey with him