Offside or not

[Greenoak]

This happened over the weekend in our local league and has much arguing.

 

Please tell me whats correct.

 

Ok its open play and a teammate takes a shot from outside the area, When the shot was taken there were 2 team mates in the area and no defenders ahead of them, but ref considered they were inactive. The shot is saved by the goalie but one of the lads in the area pounces on the loose ball (as keeper did not retain the ball ) and he puts the ball in the net.

 

GOAL OR NOT

[Woodsyla]

This happened over the weekend in our local league and has much arguing.

 

Please tell me whats correct.

 

Ok its open play and a teammate takes a shot from outside the area, When the shot was taken there were 2 team mates in the area and no defenders ahead of them, but ref considered they were inactive. The shot is saved by the goalie but one of the lads in the area pounces on the loose ball (as keeper did not retain the ball ) and he puts the ball in the net.

 

GOAL OR NOT

 

It's offside, he interferes with play, becomes active, and is therefore in an offside position when the shot was taken so as soon as he touches the ball he is offside.

[Gilps]

Offside, clearly

[Bailo]

101% offside.

[Nerik]

If when the guy took the shot he was still ahead of all defenders then yes it was offside, if a defender had recovered and was placed ahead of him then no it was not offside as it is a new action.

[John am Rhein]

Should be offside but probably wouldn't be if the player scoring the rebound was Ruud Van Nistelrooy.

[John am Rhein]

If when the guy took the shot he was still ahead of all defenders then yes it was offside, if a defender had recovered and was placed ahead of him then no it was not offside as it is a new action.

 

I think I agree, but what's a new action?

 

Key point IMO is the the player scoring the goal gained an advantage from being in the offside position. Whether he was interfering with play is pretty much moot.

[anny road]

its offside

[Hassony]

Offside

[M4TTA]

offside without a doubt! they were in an attacking position when the ball was played, interfering with play or not!

[_00_deathscar]

Key point IMO is the the player scoring the goal gained an advantage from being in the offside position. Whether he was interfering with play is pretty much moot.

 

Aye, but then so is the centre forward who is miles offside, but the central midfielder plays it out wide towards the byline for the winger to whip in an early cross back to the centre forward, still miles ahead of ahead defender, to head home - but he wouldn't be considered offside.

[John am Rhein]

Aye, but then so is the centre forward who is miles offside, but the central midfielder plays it out wide towards the byline for the winger to whip in an early cross back to the centre forward, still miles ahead of ahead defender, to head home - but he wouldn't be considered offside.

 

Should be, IMO, but you're right - those sometimes get given.

 

Just what is supposed to be meant by a 'phase of play'? Total nonsense the new offside rule is.

[Woodsyla]

Aye, but then so is the centre forward who is miles offside, but the central midfielder plays it out wide towards the byline for the winger to whip in an early cross back to the centre forward, still miles ahead of ahead defender, to head home - but he wouldn't be considered offside.

 

In terms of a rebound from a shot it is considered a direct pass to the player (the goalie touching it is ignored) so when the shot is struck if the player was in an offside position and is the next player to touch the ball after the keeper he is offside.

[smicer07]

Offside.

[Knox_Harrington]

Graham Taylor

[ManxRed]

Depends on who the referee is. If a qualified competent referee from a recognised offial body then it is offside.

 

If the referee is Rob Styles though, then it is clearly a penalty to Chelsea.

 

Hope this helps.

[Bigal]

from a corner it is ok to stand next to the keeper when the shot comes in.

 

so erm, onside.

[Woodsyla]

from a corner it is ok to stand next to the keeper when the shot comes in.

 

so erm, onside.

 

erm, the ball is going backwards from a corner

[Bailo]

erm, the ball is going backwards from a corner

hehe

[_00_deathscar]

hehe

 

How about if you place it furthest possible from the goal line, whip in a ball right towards the goal (i.e., going forwards), keeper falls (there's no one on the line), your striker stood next to keeper heads in...what then?

[Bigal]

erm, the ball is going backwards from a corner

 

when the shot comes in?

 

the man infront of the keeper isnt the person who takes the shot.

 

for arguements sake call him leeroy and the bloke who shoots, erm, graham.

[Nathan Explosion]

from a corner it is ok to stand next to the keeper when the shot comes in.

 

so erm, onside.

 

Original post makes no mention of a corner being taken

[Leo No.8]

Should be, IMO, but you're right - those sometimes get given.

 

Just what is supposed to be meant by a 'phase of play'? Total nonsense the new offside rule is.

 

My understanding of the silly phase of play thing is something like this: say a winger is passed the ball out wide, and the striker of the same team is standing in an offside position but is deemed inactive.

 

The winger carries the ball to the dead ball line, pulls it back to the same striker who scores.

 

The first phase of play is when the ball is played to the winger and he carries the ball, so the striker doesn't then become active and given offside (related to the initial pass) when the ball is pulled back to him, because the play has moved on to the next phase.

[Woodsyla]

when the shot comes in?

 

the man infront of the keeper isnt the person who takes the shot.

 

for arguements sake call him leeroy and the bloke who shoots, erm, graham.

 

You're being as stupid as I was in in the Pie/Pizza thread. If he is stood in an offside position when the shot comes in and the keeper saves it and then he taps it in he is offside. If he interferes with play in any way, i.e stood in the keeper's eyeline, stops the keeper from diving for the ball etc, he is offside.

[Guest Kaizer]

If you have rounded the keeper and play a backward pass to a team mate without any defenders being between yourself and your team mate and you two are the closest to the byeline, will you then be offside or not?