'Young' Mikey

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

he's forever a crock really, isn't he?

 

Michael Owen is facing the possibility of having hernia surgery this week and so missing England's crucial Euro 2008 qualifiers against Estonia and Russia next month.

 

Hobbling slightly, Owen, who had been unusually ineffective, was withdrawn early in the second half of Newcastle United's 3-1 win at home to West Ham United yesterday and Sam Allardyce later offered a gloomy prognosis.

 

Until yesterday Newcastle's manager had played down reliably sourced suggestions that Owen, who has been nursing a groin problem for weeks, definitely required surgery but last night he suggested that the operation - which would keep his £17m striker out for three to six weeks - was a strong possibility after all.

 

"I am worried that he asked to come off today because he felt it, whereas it was me who took him off against Derby. We'll know the full extent of it tomorrow but Michael's groin problem is persistent and we're going to have to look into it more deeply," said Allardyce, who will have noted that Owen appeared incapable of his customary acceleration.

 

"We'll scan it again, get a specialist opinion and see where we go from there. If it's the case that Michael needs an operation he'll have it straight away. If he needs it, the problem must be addressed immediately, for Michael's sake. And, if it needs to be surgery, we'll find the best surgeon in the world."

 

It is understood that Owen - forced off in similar circumstances at Derby last Monday - had hoped that a hospital visit could be delayed until December but the elaborate warm-up exercises he undertakes before games in an attempt to assuage the problem clearly failed to do the trick at St James' Park yesterday when he weakened with every passing minute.

 

This latest setback represents yet more bad luck for Owen, who has spent much of the past two seasons sidelined with first a fractured foot and then a torn cruciate ligament. His hopes of completing a full pre-season this summer were dashed by a thigh strain.

 

 

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2175694,00.html

[Rimbeux]

Not in the least injury prone, will score 20 league gaols some season soon, (if he plays all the games), mad why none of the 'big four' didn't go in for him, he's a blank cheque for goals

[The walters step over]

Not in the least injury prone, will score 20 league gaols some season soon, (if he plays all the games), mad why none of the 'big four' didn't go in for him, he's a blank cheque for goals

 

Can we, at some point in the future, and I know I'm asking a lot here but can we please stop the "I'm glad an ex player of ours who virtually carried our team for a few seasons is injured - serves him right for turning his back on us twice - which I know for a fact that he did because someone that I've never met or spoken to posted it as fact on the internet once" posts.

 

Jesus Christ, you'd have thought that he'd gone round to everyone one of your houses and slept with your missus' - give it a f****** rest - to say the BS are "bitter" is a bit hypocritical when you see some of the posts on here (especially about Owen).

 

Just one last thing, why do you suppose that he is so prone to injury? Do you think perhaps that it may have something to do with playing for us week in week out whilst clearly carrying hamstring/thigh strains? And why would someone who didn't give a flying f*** about LFC or it's fans risk their future career/potential just to help us? Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, he DID give a f*** after all! Mind you, most people on here say that he only cares about himself (as opposed to evryone in our squad that plays for us for free and never gets their agents to sniff around Chelsea,Barca or Real and Inter to see if they could get a better deal) so it must be true, he selfishly played whilst only half fit for us so that he could retain his England place - What a b****** - I know, next time he's at Anfield,let's boo him then we can sing the names of Alonso,Gerrard,Crouch and Benitez and pretend that they (or more specifically,their agents) have never talked to any other clubs whilst under contract to us.

 

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, some people on here really do need to grow up and stop being such mealy mouthed arl arses where Owen's conbcerned.

[Guest Snorky]

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, some people on here really do need to grow up and stop being such mealy mouthed arl arses where Owen's conbcerned.

 

[Rimbeux]

Can we, at some point in the future, and I know I'm asking a lot here but can we please stop the "I'm glad an ex player of ours who virtually carried our team for a few seasons is injured - serves him right for turning his back on us twice - which I know for a fact that he did because someone that I've never met or spoken to posted it as fact on the internet once" posts.

 

Jesus Christ, you'd have thought that he'd gone round to everyone one of your houses and slept with your missus' - give it a f****** rest - to say the BS are "bitter" is a bit hypocritical when you see some of the posts on here (especially about Owen).

 

Just one last thing, why do you suppose that he is so prone to injury? Do you think perhaps that it may have something to do with playing for us week in week out whilst clearly carrying hamstring/thigh strains? And why would someone who didn't give a flying f*** about LFC or it's fans risk their future career/potential just to help us? Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, he DID give a f*** after all! Mind you, most people on here say that he only cares about himself (as opposed to evryone in our squad that plays for us for free and never gets their agents to sniff around Chelsea,Barca or Real and Inter to see if they could get a better deal) so it must be true, he selfishly played whilst only half fit for us so that he could retain his England place - What a b****** - I know, next time he's at Anfield,let's boo him then we can sing the names of Alonso,Gerrard,Crouch and Benitez and pretend that they (or more specifically,their agents) have never talked to any other clubs whilst under contract to us.

 

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, some people on here really do need to grow up and stop being such mealy mouthed arl arses where Owen's conbcerned.

 

and breath

 

 

Personally, don't deny I'm indifferent to him, he's not one of our players, I dont feel the need to support him, I dont feel the need to pine for him or court him. I think he's let himself down with the advice he's taken, where it has left him, and that we as a club have moved beyond or away from what he now has to offer as a player, all factors considered.

[theredfella]

Can we, at some point in the future, and I know I'm asking a lot here but can we please stop the "I'm glad an ex player of ours who virtually carried our team for a few seasons is injured - serves him right for turning his back on us twice - which I know for a fact that he did because someone that I've never met or spoken to posted it as fact on the internet once" posts.

 

Jesus Christ, you'd have thought that he'd gone round to everyone one of your houses and slept with your missus' - give it a f****** rest - to say the BS are "bitter" is a bit hypocritical when you see some of the posts on here (especially about Owen).

 

Just one last thing, why do you suppose that he is so prone to injury? Do you think perhaps that it may have something to do with playing for us week in week out whilst clearly carrying hamstring/thigh strains? And why would someone who didn't give a flying f*** about LFC or it's fans risk their future career/potential just to help us? Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, he DID give a f*** after all! Mind you, most people on here say that he only cares about himself (as opposed to evryone in our squad that plays for us for free and never gets their agents to sniff around Chelsea,Barca or Real and Inter to see if they could get a better deal) so it must be true, he selfishly played whilst only half fit for us so that he could retain his England place - What a b****** - I know, next time he's at Anfield,let's boo him then we can sing the names of Alonso,Gerrard,Crouch and Benitez and pretend that they (or more specifically,their agents) have never talked to any other clubs whilst under contract to us.

 

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, some people on here really do need to grow up and stop being such mealy mouthed arl arses where Owen's conbcerned.

 

Great post, mate, very well said

[The walters step over]

and breath

Personally, don't deny I'm indifferent to him, he's not one of our players, I dont feel the need to support him, I dont feel the need to pine for him or court him. I think he's let himself down with the advice he's taken, where it has left him, and that we as a club have moved beyond or away from what he now has to offer as a player, all factors considered.

 

Who's pining? as a club we've moved beyond what he can offer, really? Are you saying that Voronin, Crouch or Kuyt are better? It's an undisputable fact that Owen has had s*** all luck the last 2/3 years but I don't understand the tone of your first post, if you're so indifferent then why the sarky comment - why bother?

 

It's all well and good saying that we've moved on but remember Athens? when we were desperate for that goal who would you have rather on the pitch than him, Crouch-fowler-Bellamy or Owen even with what he's going through at the moment? He showed in the two internationals the class that Crouch and Bellamy could never aspire to and that Fowler has left far behind.

 

If fit, Owen would walk into our current team.What's happened to him over the last few years doesn't make him a bad player - just a very unlucky one.

[Bailo]

Can we, at some point in the future, and I know I'm asking a lot here but can we please stop the "I'm glad an ex player of ours who virtually carried our team for a few seasons is injured - serves him right for turning his back on us twice - which I know for a fact that he did because someone that I've never met or spoken to posted it as fact on the internet once" posts.

 

Jesus Christ, you'd have thought that he'd gone round to everyone one of your houses and slept with your missus' - give it a f****** rest - to say the BS are "bitter" is a bit hypocritical when you see some of the posts on here (especially about Owen).

 

Just one last thing, why do you suppose that he is so prone to injury? Do you think perhaps that it may have something to do with playing for us week in week out whilst clearly carrying hamstring/thigh strains? And why would someone who didn't give a flying f*** about LFC or it's fans risk their future career/potential just to help us? Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, he DID give a f*** after all! Mind you, most people on here say that he only cares about himself (as opposed to evryone in our squad that plays for us for free and never gets their agents to sniff around Chelsea,Barca or Real and Inter to see if they could get a better deal) so it must be true, he selfishly played whilst only half fit for us so that he could retain his England place - What a b****** - I know, next time he's at Anfield,let's boo him then we can sing the names of Alonso,Gerrard,Crouch and Benitez and pretend that they (or more specifically,their agents) have never talked to any other clubs whilst under contract to us.

 

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, some people on here really do need to grow up and stop being such mealy mouthed arl arses where Owen's conbcerned.

Tis a great post

[Rimbeux]

Who's pining? as a club we've moved beyond what he can offer, really? Are you saying that Voronin, Crouch or Kuyt are better? It's an undisputable fact that Owen has had s*** all luck the last 2/3 years but I don't understand the tone of your first post, if you're so indifferent then why the sarky comment - why bother?

 

It's all well and good saying that we've moved on but remember Athens? when we were desperate for that goal who would you have rather on the pitch than him, Crouch-fowler-Bellamy or Owen even with what he's going through at the moment? He showed in the two internationals the class that Crouch and Bellamy could never aspire to and that Fowler has left far behind.

 

If fit, Owen would walk into our current team.What's happened to him over the last few years doesn't make him a bad player - just a very unlucky one.

 

 

You're pining. I think Torres is a better player and he plays in Owen's position (as does Crouch, but he's got unique tools so is an alternative), so that's why we've moved beyond and away from Owen imo and why he would not walk into the current side. The sarky comment was a reaction to the bandwagon that starts up everytime he's played his half dozen warm up games after injury and knocks in a couple, whoops there I go again.

[The walters step over]

You're pining. I think Torres is a better player and he plays in Owen's position (as does Crouch, but he's got unique tools so is an alternative), so that's why we've moved beyond and away from Owen imo and why he would not walk into the current side. The sarky comment was a reaction to the bandwagon that starts up everytime he's played his half dozen warm up games after injury and knocks in a couple, whoops there I go again.

 

Torres does play in Owens position, but if you play two up front then hey presto! Crouchs unique tools being what exactly? Don't get me wrong I like him and I'm not having a go but surely Rafa's attitude towards him this season (and in Athens) would indicate that Crouch will not be first choice here again - maybe he's even on his way out if you believe the speculation.

 

As for band wagon jumping, as a reaction to one then you jump on one going in the opposite direction? I prefer to make up my own mind.

[The Hitman]

To the knackers....

[pipnasty]

Rafa's attitude towards him this season would indicate that Crouch will not be first choice here again

 

 

And at the same time, I do not think that Owen will be first, second or third choice at Liverpool any time soon either.

 

I'm not arsed about what he gets up to these days as he doesn't play for us anymore.

 

He was fantastic for us, then screwed us over and is now gone.

 

Whilst I agree that it isn't right that people revel in his injuries I also feel that its time that people got over him. I really doubt that he is ever going to return to Liverpool.

[Des]

Whilst I agree that it isn't right that people revel in his injuries I also feel that its time that people got over him. I really doubt that he is ever going to return to Liverpool.

 

Not while Rafa's here, that's for sure.

[Rimbeux]

Torres does play in Owens position, but if you play two up front then hey presto! Crouchs unique tools being what exactly? Don't get me wrong I like him and I'm not having a go but surely Rafa's attitude towards him this season (and in Athens) would indicate that Crouch will not be first choice here again - maybe he's even on his way out if you believe the speculation.

 

As for band wagon jumping, as a reaction to one then you jump on one going in the opposite direction? I prefer to make up my own mind.

 

 

The way we play is with one forward dropping off to link play and one on the last shoulder, yep Torres could drop off and play support to Owen, but would that be the best use of his powers. My opinion is that Owen would be on the bench at Liverpool, used as Crouch seems to be, but not the main man, and he's a player that really needs a run of games for form. I dont go along with the view that the title contenders have definately missed a trick by not signing him, who would start with him? I dont think he's a bad player at all, but call it bad luck, poor judgement, bad coaching, injuries or whatever, he's not a good as he was turn of the century, and nothing like the player he promised to be. I'm indifferent to him as a player and any thoughts of signing him.

[Mondavi]

Can we, at some point in the future, and I know I'm asking a lot here but can we please stop the "I'm glad an ex player of ours who virtually carried our team for a few seasons is injured - serves him right for turning his back on us twice - which I know for a fact that he did because someone that I've never met or spoken to posted it as fact on the internet once" posts.

 

Jesus Christ, you'd have thought that he'd gone round to everyone one of your houses and slept with your missus' - give it a f****** rest - to say the BS are "bitter" is a bit hypocritical when you see some of the posts on here (especially about Owen).

 

Just one last thing, why do you suppose that he is so prone to injury? Do you think perhaps that it may have something to do with playing for us week in week out whilst clearly carrying hamstring/thigh strains? And why would someone who didn't give a flying f*** about LFC or it's fans risk their future career/potential just to help us? Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here, he DID give a f*** after all! Mind you, most people on here say that he only cares about himself (as opposed to evryone in our squad that plays for us for free and never gets their agents to sniff around Chelsea,Barca or Real and Inter to see if they could get a better deal) so it must be true, he selfishly played whilst only half fit for us so that he could retain his England place - What a b****** - I know, next time he's at Anfield,let's boo him then we can sing the names of Alonso,Gerrard,Crouch and Benitez and pretend that they (or more specifically,their agents) have never talked to any other clubs whilst under contract to us.

 

I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, some people on here really do need to grow up and stop being such mealy mouthed arl arses where Owen's conbcerned.

 

Great post. No need for the bitterness at all, far too much of it on here regarding particularly, but not exclusively, Owen. I can't see how defending him against the bitter comments can be classed as "not getting over him either".

 

Shame really, but that's some people I guess

[Cam]

Feck this cuddly-snuggly routine.

 

Amputate his leg.

[Greenoak]

Owen still turns and plays for newcash when he clearly is not fit to do so.

 

Those morons up there will never give him the full time he needs to recover. I fear he is the Kewell of the north now. As for Fat Sam, more evedence of a manager than is clueless. Does not even know the fitness of their biggest asset. Well done fat boy.

 

Always in recovery and never playing like then can.

[Rimbeux]

Owen still turns and plays for newcash when he clearly is not fit to do so.

 

Those morons up there will never give him the full time he needs to recover. I fear he is the Kewell of the north now. As for Fat Sam, more evedence of a manager than is clueless. Does not even know the fitness of their biggest asset. Well done fat boy.

 

Always in recovery and never playing like then can.

\

To be fair to Allardyce he's been the one trying to hold Owen back and has been talking of how long it's going to take him to get back to full capacity, how he's going to have to be used carefully, and how he's going to need constant rehab work for the remainder of his career.

Edited September 24, 2007 by Rimbeux

[Gilps]

My opinion is that Owen would be on the bench at Liverpool, used as Crouch seems to be, but not the main man, and he's a player that really needs a run of games for form. I dont go along with the view that the title contenders have definately missed a trick by not signing him, who would start with him? I dont think he's a bad player at all, but call it bad luck, poor judgement, bad coaching, injuries or whatever, he's not a good as he was turn of the century, and nothing like the player he promised to be. I'm indifferent to him as a player and any thoughts of signing him.

 

His scoring record at Newcastle is 1 in 2. Christ knows how good it would be if he was injury free for a while and got the run of games you think he needs to get his form going. 3 vital goals in 2 high pressure internationals just recently suggest he's still got that knack of scoring in big games too. He's edging ever closer to being his country's record goalscorer, which wouldn't be a bad achievement for someone who's "nothing like the player he promised to be".

[Sion]

There's only two things Owen is interested in now, the England goalscoring record and racehorses

[Gilps]

There's only two things Owen is interested in now, the England goalscoring record and racehorses

 

I think he'd be very interested in competing for trophies at one of the big 4 (for want of a better description) given half a chance. It's the injuries that have held up him getting the chance to sign again for a big club, not his (still excellent) scoring record when fit.

[Bailo]

There's only two things Owen is interested in now, the England goalscoring record and racehorses

You'll have to tell him to come on here more. Y'know, as you know him so well.

[Rimbeux]

His scoring record at Newcastle is 1 in 2. Christ knows how good it would be if he was injury free for a while and got the run of games you think he needs to get his form going. 3 vital goals in 2 high pressure internationals just recently suggest he's still got that knack of scoring in big games too. He's edging ever closer to being his country's record goalscorer, which wouldn't be a bad achievement for someone who's "nothing like the player he promised to be".

 

Not bad achievments, I didn't say he was a bad player, I just think he had the potenntial to have been up there on a level with the likes of Henry, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo and Shevchenko, and for whatever reasons he's fallen short of that level.

[Gilps]

Not bad achievments, I didn't say he was a bad player, I just think he had the potenntial to have been up there on a level with the likes of Henry, Van Nistlerooy, Ronaldo and Shevchenko, and for whatever reasons he's fallen short of that level.

 

That'll be the injuries then

[The walters step over]

There's only two things Owen is interested in now, the England goalscoring record and racehorses

 

 

And you feel confident in making this assertion about someone you probably have never met because you have a window into his mind I presume - a bit like "being john whatsisface" with the mighty John Cusack.