Rafa vs Martin Jol

[johngibo YPC]

I can't really understand why Martin Jol gets so much respect in the media and Rafa gets criticised.

If you look at what they have achieved at their current clubs and their previous clubs it doesn't make sense

Can someone explain it to me please?

The only thing i can think of is that the papers love Jol because he buys lots of English players

[Maldini]

They can predict what Jol is going to do, Rafa makes them look stupid.

[Benitez]

does Jol get that much respect now? I think people have cottoned onto the fact he isn't all that.

[Hassony]

who praises Jol while criticising Rafa?

[_00_deathscar]

who praises Jol while criticising Rafa?

 

The media.

 

Do keep up....

[Snoeker]

who praises Jol while criticising Rafa?

 

Scans very nicely with Verdi's Anvil Chorus.

[charlie clown]

who praises Jol while criticising Rafa?

 

 

people. you know. like, bad people.

 

can't believe you didn't know that.

Edited August 16, 2007 by charlie clown

[honourablegeorge]

The media LOVE Spurs almost as much as West Ham.

 

Interesting piece here, though - seems Jol's under a little bit of pressure.

 

http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/pr...icle2866834.ece

[floyd]

Bar, Brian Reade, Henry Winter & James Lawton, most of the press are to55ers

[Hassony]

Bar, Brian Reade, Henry Winter & James Lawton, most of the press are to55ers

 

does that include Kahnee?

[Stevie H]

martin jol has brothers called c**k and dick.

[IgPig]

Jol is affable and quotable.

 

Rafa gives 'em nowt.

[Hassony]

martin jol has brothers called c**k and dick.

 

and a sister called pussy

[Cobs]

martin jol has brothers called c**k and dick.

and a younger hip brother called Itslikedat

[honourablegeorge]

Jol is affable and quotable.

 

Rafa gives 'em nowt.

 

 

I was under the impression that Rafa was well liked, presswise. That one where he was joking about the cricket, etc.

[fyds]

Scans very nicely with Verdi's Anvil Chorus.

Only if you miss two beats and a bar!

 

The media criticize Rafa and his rotation/zonal marking/untested signings etc, because he's spanish and the manager of a club that is THE now rousing giant of English football and not based in London or run by a pissed scot. They are generally more praiseworthy of Jol because if they were not, he would rip off thier arms and suck the jelly from their eyes. They do wonder why he hasn't signed Heskey yet though.

[New York Red]

I thought Jol was really good. Not better than Rafa, but good.

 

I may be very wrong about that.

[fyds]

I thought Jol was really good. Not better than Rafa, but good.

 

I may be very wrong about that.

He's better than any English manager I can think of - which is the epitomy of damning with faint praise.

[Knox_Harrington]

He's better than any English manager I can think of - which is the epitomy of damning with faint praise.

I'd have Allardyce ahead of Jol. I'd rather go for a pint with the latter though.

[Hassony]

he is destined to take over from van basten as the dutch national coach next summer so this is likely to be his last season with spurs anyway

[Hassony]

I'd have Allardyce ahead of Jol. I'd rather go for a pint with the latter though.

 

Jol's got the best accent in the world

[Cobs]

Jol's got the best accent in the world

for sure !

[Guest Linton]

I'd have Allardyce ahead of Jol. I'd rather go for a pint with the latter though.

 

 

Allardcyce's football is painfully boring. Jol's isn't. And he has been good for Spurs. I agree with the beer though.

[Sion]

He's an average to poor manager. He has little say in transfers as Spurs are run in a typical European style with a sporting director (Damien Commoli) running things behind the scene mean Jol is more of a head coach than a manager in the English sense of the word. If we had someone over Rafa like Comolli is at Spurs, I think Rafa would quit, or at least be very pissed off.

Spurs have spent the biggest amount behind Chelsea since Jol's been in charge, getting them successive 5th places is hardly an achievement, especially when you compare the relative success Moyes has has at Everton with tight a*** Kenwright in charge.

[Hassony]

He's an average to poor manager. He has little say in transfers as Spurs are run in a typical European style with a sporting director (Damien Commoli) running things behind the scene mean Jol is more of a head coach than a manager in the English sense of the word. If we had someone over Rafa like Comolli is at Spurs, I think Rafa would quit, or at least be very pissed off.

Spurs have spent the biggest amount behind Chelsea since Jol's been in charge, getting them successive 5th places is hardly an achievement, especially when you compare the relative success Moyes has has at Everton with tight a*** Kenwright in charge.

 

to be fair to Jol spurs have always been big spenders, but he got them into their highest league position in donkey's years for two seasons