The Importance of the Away Goal

[sutty]

I was going to post this on here but the topic was already being discussed of redcafe so I started it there...

 

Right, Ginsoak was going on about the importance of scoring in Rome, and how 0-0 was a dangerous result. The commentator on ITV made noises to the effect of job done and precious away goals etc etc

 

Why the f*** is getting beat but scoring better than a 0-0. In any way shape or form its not better.

 

Somebody on the cafe has just said...

 

"It just depends on how the other leg ends. 2-1 could well work out better for us than 0-0 would have."

 

How exactly? 2-1 is much better than 1-0 but FFS....

Edited April 5, 2007 by sutty

[Stevie H]

it's really straightforward surely? it's half-time and you're losing or its half-time and you're level. which is better?

 

home/away advantage notwithstanding, roma will undoubtedly be happier with 2-1 than they would have been with 0-0.

[sutty]

I've asked how it could be better.

 

"If we win 2-1, we'll get extra-time, as opposed to just being knocked out had the first leg finished goal less."

 

Erm...

[Tones]

I've asked how it could be better.

 

"If we win 2-1, we'll get extra-time, as opposed to just being knocked out had the first leg finished goal less."

 

Erm...

 

[matty]

Actually I sometimes think losing 2-1 is a better result than 0-0.

 

If you're confident of scoring at home, which the mancs would be, then you're ahead in the tie as soon as you score.

 

No away goals means any score by your opponents is a strong advantage. Any score draw then means that the away team win.

[sutty]

Actually I sometimes think losing 2-1 is a better result than 0-0.

 

If you're confident of scoring at home, which the mancs would be, then you're ahead in the tie as soon as you score.

 

No away goals means any score by your opponents is a strong advantage. Any score draw then means that the away team win.

 

Eh?

 

That makes c**k all sense.

[Woodsyla]

I was going to post this on here but the topic was already being discussed of redcafe so I started it there...

 

Right, Ginsoak was going on about the importance of scoring in Rome, and how 0-0 was a dangerous result. The commentator on ITV made noises to the effect of job done and precious away goals etc etc

 

Why the f*** is getting beat but scoring better than a 0-0. In any way shape or form its not better.

 

Somebody on the cafe has just said...

 

"It just depends on how the other leg ends. 2-1 could well work out better for us than 0-0 would have."

 

How exactly? 2-1 is much better than 1-0 but FFS....

 

I'd say a 2-1 defeat and a 0-0 draw are about equivalent results. A 1-0 home win gets you through but let them score and you need 2 yourself.

[sutty]

You're ahead as soon as you score at 0-0 as well

 

Kinell. There is not a single result that puts 2-1 better than 0-0

[Bailo]

No away goals means any score by your opponents is a strong advantage. Any score draw then means that the away team win.

Exactly. 0-0 away from home means that you HAVE to win at home. You'd back yourself to win at home, of course, but it's the only result that takes you through.

[Cobs]

Actually I sometimes think losing 2-1 is a better result than 0-0.

 

If you're confident of scoring at home, which the mancs would be, then you're ahead in the tie as soon as you score.

 

No away goals means any score by your opponents is a strong advantage. Any score draw then means that the away team win.

[Nathan Explosion]

I've asked how it could be better.

 

"If we win 2-1, we'll get extra-time, as opposed to just being knocked out had the first leg finished goal less."

 

Erm...

 

Give that poster a calculator

[Cobs]

Exactly. 0-0 away from home means that you HAVE to win at home. You'd back yourself to win at home, of course, but it's the only result that takes you through.

whereas if you lose away from home..........

[smithdown]

Actually I sometimes think losing 2-1 is a better result than 0-0.

 

If you're confident of scoring at home, which the mancs would be, then you're ahead in the tie as soon as you score.

 

No away goals means any score by your opponents is a strong advantage. Any score draw then means that the away team win.

 

 

Eh?

 

You're ahead as soon as you make it 1-0 as well as 2-2.

Any score draw has you out in both cases.

 

Drawing an away game is better than losing an away game. Trust us on that one.

[sutty]

Exactly. 0-0 away from home means that you HAVE to win at home. You'd back yourself to win at home, of course, but it's the only result that takes you through.

f***ing hell.

[Bailo]

whereas if you lose away from home..........

I take your point. In the case of the Mancs, they'd obviously back themselves to score at OT. It depends on whether you're going to defend or attack at home.

[sutty]

I take your point. In the case of the Mancs, they'd obviously back themselves to score at OT. It depends on whether you're going to defend or attack at home.

 

So 2-1 is better than 0-0 how exactly?

[Rimbeux]

Actually I sometimes think losing 2-1 is a better result than 0-0.

 

If you're confident of scoring at home, which the mancs would be, then you're ahead in the tie as soon as you score.

 

No away goals means any score by your opponents is a strong advantage. Any score draw then means that the away team win.

 

No way. Roma in this place know that if they don't concede they are through, however you dress it up, it's better to be level than behind. 0-0 and Man U either have to score or not concede to go through, 2-1 down, and they have to score AND not concede

[Bailo]

f***ing hell.

Phrased badly. If you lose 2-1 you're obviously going to have to win, depends on how confident you are on keeping a clean sheet.

[sutty]

s***name and Matty are maring it here.

 

I'm starting to doubt matty's budget calculations now, that's for sure.

[Kvarme Ate My Food]

Exactly. 0-0 away from home means that you HAVE to win at home. You'd back yourself to win at home, of course, but it's the only result that takes you through.

 

[sutty]

Phrased badly. If you lose 2-1 you're obviously going to have to win, depends on how confident you are on keeping a clean sheet.

 

Not phrased badly. Just plain incorrect

[Bailo]

So 2-1 is better than 0-0 how exactly?

I see mods can edit without a trace......

 

It's not in some cases. It completely depends on the teams involved and their attacking/defensive priorities.

[Nathan Explosion]

Phrased badly. If you lose 2-1 you're obviously going to have to win, depends on how confident you are on keeping a clean sheet.

 

As opposed to 0-0 away from home, where you also have to win at home to progress?

[jfogarty]

Roma are as likely to score in the 2nd leg IMO

 

Early piece of Totti magic, United push forward looking for 3 goals and Roma destroy them on the break. Its easy

[Cobs]

pretty simple this

 

if you draw 0-0 away from home a scoring draw or worse at home puts you out and ANY victory puts you through

 

if you lose away from home ANY draw or worse puts you out & SOME victories may not be good enough to put you through

 

 

therefore a 0-0 away draw is better than a defeat.