Romario Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 We could play the first team and we might even win it! 19
anny road Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 it ight be right for us but it can never work where do you stop?? how many teams? which teams? where do they play? where do u fit them in whats right for few isnt always right for the many
Sion Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 which teams? Only the ones with 18 league titles or more
liverbird04 Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I take it we aren't on good terms with swindon? Swindon chief Willie Carson was equally scathing of Benitez's plans. "Why on Earth did this man say this? The system has worked just fine for years," he said. "The top clubs loan their reserve players out to get top experience, so we take them on; they get better and we get better. "Clubs like Manchester United are forever sending their youngsters out and it helps us and it helps them. It helps football. Rafael Benitez is being selfish. Simple. "He wants his players to get better but no one else to get better with it. "This system would help his lot for sure, but what about us lot that get pushed out? Someone has to make way for these teams. "He should put something back into the game. His club has lots of money, why don't they see it better distributed? No, they want more, and we suffer for it."
Scorpion Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I take it we aren't on good terms with swindon? Swindon chief Willie Carson was equally scathing of Benitez's plans. "Why on Earth did this man say this? The system has worked just fine for years," he said. "The top clubs loan their reserve players out to get top experience, so we take them on; they get better and we get better. "Clubs like Manchester United are forever sending their youngsters out and it helps us and it helps them. It helps football. Rafael Benitez is being selfish. Simple. "He wants his players to get better but no one else to get better with it. "This system would help his lot for sure, but what about us lot that get pushed out? Someone has to make way for these teams. "He should put something back into the game. His club has lots of money, why don't they see it better distributed? No, they want more, and we suffer for it." He should shut up.....no one cares about small clubs.
Guest Scot Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Wrong. It's high-handed. The reserve league needs an overhaul but parachuting in top teams' reserve sides would be entirely wrong.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Wrong. It'd totally devalue the Football League. Don't see why we couldn't do the same sort of thing with the likes of Crewe, anyway
Guest Kev Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 The idea is a good one, but probably impractical in getting started unless one or both of the lower divisions become geographically based.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 The idea is a good one, but probably impractical in getting started unless one or both of the lower divisions become geographically based. I don't think it is a ggod idea. More towns would end up without professional clubs
Whitey Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Wrong. But it does need a revamp somehow. Seems no structure any more, so unable to get the progression developing players need. Hence Wenger plays his boys in the Cups...
surf Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 "You can see youngsters playing just 18 games a season, that is nothing. Certainly not enough for the development of these players. Why not increase the number of games the reserve teams play? Make them play each team in their league four times instead of two or add a cup competition. Just thinking aloud, like.
Kvarme Ate My Food Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 Why not increase the number of games the reserve teams play? Make them play each team in their league four times instead of two or add a cup competition. Just thinking aloud, like. a reserve cup's a good idea
JonShar Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 If there was an age cap on the main reserve league - say 23 - that would accomplish much the same thing.
Crazy Horse Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I'm a bit disappointed in Rafa here. It sounds like something I'd expect from Chelsea or Man U, though I suppose his only interest is to develop the best squad he can.
JonShar Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I'm a bit disappointed in Rafa here. It sounds like something I'd expect from Chelsea or Man U, though I suppose his only interest is to develop the best squad he can. Not really, he's describing the same reserve system they have in Spain, obviously he thinks it works better.
Nogsy Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 could the club possibly create a new "team" ala FC United, start in the lower leagues and work their way up?
reddragon Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 sorry Rafa mate but i think this is a crap idea. As Fatty Robbo said it's a case of the rich getting richer and the poor being shafted. Liverpool FC is not about being high-handed and looking down on the small clubs. We are rightly proud of showing our appreciation to the fans of lower league clubs who come to Anfield in the Cups. Whilst we are fed on decades of success these poor souls starve whilst waiting to come to Anfield and get thrashed 4-0 once a blue moon [if ever]. Why should we think we have the right to relegate some teams out of the league in order to give our reserves a run out?
Ombudsam Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 It's a f*cking shyte idea. Football can't exist for four f*cking clubs. That's not the point of it.
Maldini Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) The press are always banging on about how the big clubs damage the English game by not producing enough young players. This is the only way they'll be able to do so. The English youth set up is a complete and total farce. Some sort of compromise between Rafa's idea and the current set up has to be reached. I don't think people realise just how bad the standard of the reserve league is. It's about Unibond league standard if even that, it's a waste of time having our lads playing in it. They only play 18 games too. Loaning players out is a double edged sword too, while they get games, they don't get the high standard of coaching they could at LFC. The reason Spain produces so many more quality players than England is because of their setup, their young players are playing a fairly high standard of football from the age of 16/17 and they benefit from it hugely. -----------An interesting alternative as outlined over on This Is Anfield: We could adopt a similar system to the Germans. After the first and second division, the third league is regional, which means there are FOUR regional third divisions of equal value. In my reckoning that makes SIX top leagues, and we have only four at the moment ! The advantage of the regional system is: 1. You are only ONE step away from the Championship, although you may have been playing in divison three before, but there are less promotion places. 2. You save lots of money on travel by only visiting local teams and not having to travel from Exeter to Gateshead. And such distant away games have lower gates that local ones which makes you even more money. 3. The fact you have FOUR regional leagues and at the moment we only have div 2, div 3 and div 4, means we have enough space to incorperate 20 reserve teams ! This wouldnt disadvantage anyone, because they are not displacing anyone. The reserve teams wouldnt be able to get promoted any higher, but can get relegated. Edited March 20, 2007 by Maldini
wacko Posted March 20, 2007 Posted March 20, 2007 I agree with Maldini. The Germans have a good setup. Including Prem reserve sides in the league is a great idea: as has been said, it would give the players invaluable competitive playing time and within the tactical system that we play. On the other hand, you can't just chuck 20 teams out of the league to make way for Prem reserve sides. I can't see anything changing: the Spanish and German systems work so well because they've always been that way. There's no way on Earth you could push through changes like that in England, though, because we simply don't do it that way, and any such alterations would doom a few clubs.
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