Is it just me?

[Ronnie Whelan]

Or does loosing on Saturday not hurt as much as it usually does. Sure, loosing agains the mancs is never nice but we are not in the title race this season so loosing does effect us as much as it may have had in different circumstances. The most important thing from the match was not too loose any key players to injury and we managed that. Im focused on number 6. The usual banter from the manc fans has not bothered me as much as it usually does.

[Stevie H]

i'd still like to pluck out my eyeballs with tweezers this morning. i f***ing hate them, i f***ing hate losing to them and i f***ing well b*****d loathe losing to the c**** undeservedly in injury time. they can f*** off.

 

the only minor consolation is that we have such a big game tomorrow night to divert the attention.

[Rory Fitzgerald]

That did not hurt one bit as much as it should have.

 

Last minute winner, kop end, against run of play, they celebrate, Manc in my face in the pub screaming.

 

I literally shrugged it off

 

The BIG one is Barca and the only explanation I had is that.

 

Whatever had of happened on Saturday (Win 5-0, lose 0-5) is that it would have been forgotten after the Barca game. If we win or lose the Barca game the emotions from that game would overshadow anything we had of got against Mancs. Thats the only explanation I have for my emotions !

[johngibo YPC]

Saturday was nothing compared to that FA cup game at Old Trafford

[Guest Anders Honoré]

It hurts because it was a big step towards another championship for them. We should have made that more difficult for them.

[Knox_Harrington]

As hard as I've been hit since the derby defeat at Goodison.

[Des]

  johngibo YPC said:

Saturday was nothing compared to that FA cup game at Old Trafford

 

True dat.

[Leo No.8]

Didn't hit me as hard as I'd expected either.

 

I kind of knew it was coming in all honesty, the longer we dominated without scoring the more the writing was on the wall. They've been pulling off jammy last minute winners for weeks now and we've been throwing away chances to win games all season, so even when they were down to ten men I had that sinking feeling. I had my head in my hands and couldn't watch the Giggs corner a few minutes before they scored, it was all so f*cking inevitable which made it less of a shock.

 

I just got my head down and got out as quickly as possible after clapping the players off (because they all deserved it for their efforts regardless of us having lost in the end) and started thinking about Barcelona.

 

I think that took the edge off it as well, the feeling that the late goal hadn't really done much except hurt our pride and that the really important game was still to come; we were going to finish 3rd or 4th anyway, United were going to win the title anyway even with a point at our place, and the fact that the really big game which could lead to number six was just a few days away.

 

We'd played well and the signs are still positive for Tuesday so I dealt with it better than normal I think it's fair to say.

Edited March 5, 2007 by Leo No.8

[Ronnie Whelan]

  Anders Honoré said:

It hurts because it was a big step towards another championship for them. We should have made that more difficult for them.

 

 

Thats probably the one thing that got to me most, but no 16 for them is ok so long as its no 6 for us

[stonty]

You?re right, it hurts but now so much as it usually would.

 

It wasn?t the Barca game, I just thought to myself, the PL has been gone as far as we're concerned for a while now, just wait until next season when we have some real players instead of the bargain basement journey-men that Rafa has tried to use.

 

Boy do I look forward to when we have quality in all departments and can really humiliate them.

[Scaryscouse]

For me it hurt every bit as bad as any other defeat to them, regardless of who we have on Tuesday. We simply should have beat them ireespective of what it means in terms of the league. I'm Irish myself and have seen John O Shea play many times and to see that Donkey grab headlines with a winner, makes me sick to my stomach.

 

I'm not one prone to knee jerk reactions, but if we loose to Barca. For the first time under Rafa's charge I will be asking very serious questions.

[fred milne]

  Ronnie Whelan said:

Or does loosing on Saturday not hurt as much as it usually does.

You certainly can't compare it to say Wembley 96, Anfield 97 or the FA Cup game at Old Trafford.

[Ronnie Whelan]

  Scaryscouse said:

I'm not one prone to knee jerk reactions, but if we loose to Barca. For the first time under Rafa's charge I will be asking very serious questions.

 

 

Seriously? You dont think the club have moved forward since Rafa took charge? Who would you rather see at the helm giving the really important summer we have coming up? Who would you replace the players with who would leave if Rafa went?

[Guest RedLegend]

I was well gutted anyway.

 

Only thing is we have a big game following straight away after so not as much time as usual to stay down about it. Thankfully.

[Bootle Buck]

I thought the game itself lacked the passion of a Liverpool v Mancs game. There really wasn't any unsavoury moments other than Scholes, which was handbags at best. I think both teams had an eye on midweek. Utd came happy for a point and we came out of it without any injuries for Tuesday. If Barca wasn't so soon after it might have been a different story.

[Leo No.8]

  Scaryscouse said:

For me it hurt every bit as bad as any other defeat to them, regardless of who we have on Tuesday. We simply should have beat them ireespective of what it means in terms of the league. I'm Irish myself and have seen John O Shea play many times and to see that Donkey grab headlines with a winner, makes me sick to my stomach.

 

I'm not one prone to knee jerk reactions, but if we loose to Barca. For the first time under Rafa's charge I will be asking very serious questions.

 

I think you should be asking some very serious questions too - starting with 'what the f*ck am I on about?'

[Romario]

  Leo No.8 said:

Didn't hit me as hard as I'd expected either.

 

I kind of knew it was coming in all honesty, the longer we dominated without scoring the more the writing was on the wall. They've been pulling off jammy last minute winners for weeks now and we've been throwing away chances to win games all season, so even when they were down to ten men I had that sinking feeling. I had my head in my hands and couldn't watch the Giggs corner a few minutes before they scored, it was all so f*cking inevitable which made it less of a shock.

 

I just got my head down and got out as quickly as possible after clapping the players off (because they all deserved it for their efforts regardless of us having lost in the end) and started thinking about Barcelona.

 

I think that took the edge off it as well, the feeling that the late goal hadn't really done much except hurt our pride and that the really important game was still to come; we were going to finish 3rd or 4th anyway, United were going to win the title anyway even with a point at our place, and the fact that the really big game which could lead to number six was just a few days away.

 

We'd played well and the signs are still positive for Tuesday so I dealt with it better than normal I think it's fair to say.

Totally agree. Couldn't see where our goal was going to come from and was waiting for them to do exactly what they did. That's what really hurt actually. The predictable way they scored. Like Rio's s***ting goal against us.

If we made the most out of such set pieces as they did we'd have won 15-1.

 

I can't honestly believe Rafa hasn't sorted out our corner taking. I now use our corners to go and take a piss or get a pint.

[Scaryscouse]

I didn't say I wanted someone to step in Ronnie and to answer your question I couldn't name a manager who could come in. I never said we've not made progress. But if we get knocked out to Barca, we scrape fourth and were humiliated in two cup competitions. Am I so unreasonable to put blind faith aside for just one second and question Rafa's judgement?

[Ronnie Whelan]

  Scaryscouse said:

I'm not one prone to knee jerk reactions, but if we loose to Barca. For the first time under Rafa's charge I will be asking very serious questions.

 

 

I assume the serious question is whether or not rafa should stay in charge? No?

Edited March 5, 2007 by Ronnie Whelan

[Guest elvispelvis2000]

  Scaryscouse said:

I didn't say I wanted someone to step in Ronnie and to answer your question I couldn't name a manager who could come in. I never said we've not made progress. But if we get knocked out to Barca, we scrape fourth and were humiliated in two cup competitions. Am I so unreasonable to put blind faith aside for just one second and question Rafa's judgement?

 

hows it blind faith, havent you seen with your own eyes how much we have improved since rafa took over

[Christine]

  elvispelvis2000 said:

hows it blind faith, havent you seen with your own eyes how much we have improved since rafa took over

 

Twenty points of the leaders AGAIN? Can't score won't score mentality. Same problems now that we had four years ago....

[Guest RedLegend]

  Romario said:

Totally agree. Couldn't see where our goal was going to come from and was waiting for them to do exactly what they did. That's what really hurt actually. The predictable way they scored. Like Rio's s***ting goal against us.

If we made the most out of such set pieces as they did we'd have won 15-1.

 

I can't honestly believe Rafa hasn't sorted out our corner taking. I now use our corners to go and take a piss or get a pint.

 

Our corners are a nightmare. We have nobody that can swing in a dangerous corner and unless Sami is playing we have nobody that really attacks the ball.

 

Hence all the sodding short corners we try and the ones floated out to the edge of the box for someone to try and volley home miraculously.

[Guest elvispelvis2000]

  Christine said:

Twenty points of the leaders AGAIN? Can't score won't score mentality. Same problems now that we had four years ago....

 

 

sorry, i was talking about the football we now play rather than just judging us on the league table.

we have dominated most of the games we have played this season and i cant think of one game where we have got a result that we didnt deserve.

im not saying we're the best team ever but its not blind faith that meake me think rafa is the right man for the job

[Christine]

  elvispelvis2000 said:

sorry, i was talking about the football we now play rather than just judging us on the league table.

we have dominated most of the games we have played this season and i cant think of one game where we have got a result that we didnt deserve.

im not saying we're the best team ever but its not blind faith that meake me think rafa is the right man for the job

 

I'm not arsed about 'style of play' - I don't go to be entertained, I would take result over performance seven days a week, of course in an ideal world you would want both but take Saturday as an example, I can't take any comfort in the fact that we played well, if anything that just annoys me more.

 

If I?m being totally honest I haven?t seen any improvement in this year?s league campaign compared to the previous one. That?s not good enough.

Edited March 5, 2007 by Christine

[Ostrich Man]

  elvispelvis2000 said:

i cant think of one game where we have got a result that we didnt deserve.

 

oh i dont know, you sort of deserved a draw on saturday.