Jezzman Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Olympiacos' home stadium, the Karaiskaki stadium, has 21 empty black seats, which will forever remain empty in memory of the 21 who died (see the other thread about gate 7) Could this be an idea for the new stadium..? To have 96 empty black seats and keep these seats empty until justice is done? Here's a pic borrowed from RAWK, which shows the 21 seats in the Karaiskaki Stadium:
leveller Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 I think that would be ace.me too.......fitting way to tie the new in with the old
smicer07 Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 It'll never happen though, 96 X 35 quid = £3360 Times that by home games per season... it's a lot of cash to lose out on.
Jezzman Posted February 8, 2007 Author Posted February 8, 2007 Surely you could fit 60'096 seats into a stadium instead of 60'000.... it's a matter of WANTING to do this, more than it's a matter of money...
robfar1 Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Will the current memorial be moved to the new ground or will it remain in the new area which is going to be a park isn't it? Oh and yes the seats are a great idea (but I doubt it will happen).
Kopfaithful Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Surely you could fit 60'096 seats into a stadium instead of 60'000.... it's a matter of WANTING to do this, more than it's a matter of money... i know this will go against the popular mood about this - but quite honestly i can't think of anything worse. i go the match to enjoy myself. i don't want a constant reminder of that day. i don't want to be sat next to an empty seat so all I think is that could have been my mate. imo, this idea is morbid and depressing. we have the memorial, which as far as i know is getting moved to the new stadium, that's enough for me and we have the HJC to fight for justice, which i'm more than happy to support.
Cobs Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 i know this will go against the popular mood about this - but quite honestly i can't think of anything worse. i go the match to enjoy myself. i don't want a constant reminder of that day. i don't want to be sat next to an empty seat so all I think is that could have been my mate. imo, this idea is morbid and depressing. we have the memorial, which as far as i know is getting moved to the new stadium, that's enough for me and we have the HJC to fight for justice, which i'm more than happy to support.with all due respect i agree.
AE Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Great idea, but I guess the seats would be needed to be surrounded by ST holders etc to ensure the "uneducated" didn't try to sit on them.
Mike Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 i know this will go against the popular mood about this - but quite honestly i can't think of anything worse. i go the match to enjoy myself. i don't want a constant reminder of that day. i don't want to be sat next to an empty seat so all I think is that could have been my mate. imo, this idea is morbid and depressing. we have the memorial, which as far as i know is getting moved to the new stadium, that's enough for me and we have the HJC to fight for justice, which i'm more than happy to support. brave post...and i agree also.
The Hitman Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 i know this will go against the popular mood about this - but quite honestly i can't think of anything worse. i go the match to enjoy myself. i don't want a constant reminder of that day. i don't want to be sat next to an empty seat so all I think is that could have been my mate. imo, this idea is morbid and depressing. we have the memorial, which as far as i know is getting moved to the new stadium, that's enough for me and we have the HJC to fight for justice, which i'm more than happy to support.I agree with that.
Jezzman Posted February 8, 2007 Author Posted February 8, 2007 i know this will go against the popular mood about this - but quite honestly i can't think of anything worse. i go the match to enjoy myself. i don't want a constant reminder of that day. i don't want to be sat next to an empty seat so all I think is that could have been my mate. imo, this idea is morbid and depressing. we have the memorial, which as far as i know is getting moved to the new stadium, that's enough for me and we have the HJC to fight for justice, which i'm more than happy to support. I see your points but I still feel we should be doing everything in our power to raise awareness about Hillsborough - not leave it all to the HJC... In regards to morbid or nor, did you find the singing morbid when we played Arsenal..? You're entitled to your opinion and all, I'm just trying to get some more details...
Kopfaithful Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Me too. it seems a more popular point of view than i imagined!!!
Chili Palmer Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 I have always thought that the Liver bird on our crest should be made up of 96 tiny stars.
Poolfrog Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 i know this will go against the popular mood about this - but quite honestly i can't think of anything worse. i go the match to enjoy myself. i don't want a constant reminder of that day. i don't want to be sat next to an empty seat so all I think is that could have been my mate. imo, this idea is morbid and depressing. we have the memorial, which as far as i know is getting moved to the new stadium, that's enough for me and we have the HJC to fight for justice, which i'm more than happy to support.Agree 100%
smithdown Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Agree with js also. Bit mawkish the idea of empty seats, not sure why but doesn't quite seem appropriate.
stonty Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Great idea, would love to see it. I'd say it was respectful not morbid. Fair play to Olympiacos, some things are beyond money.
Billy Dane Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 agree with js. Another option could be to have 96 different coloured seats, as they do with the sponsors logo, or have the names of the 96 on 96 seats like they do with park benches.
FMac Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Will there be more than 96 corporate boxes? Each box has to have an identifier anyway. They could have photo's from happier times on the walls, celebrating their lives rather than just mourning their death. Each box holder could get in touch with the relatives, thereby having a meaningful relationship with the core of the club, rather than being (purely) prawn sandwich brigade. Once these (frequently influential) people hear the individual stories, the Justice campaign could get some powerful voices. Just a thought.
MikeK88 Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 I agree with JS. I dont think we should have 96 empty seats, but perhaps something less 'out there' kind of thing. Perhaps a subtle touch to the stadium... 96 burning flames around the top... or perhaps just 96 painted flames around some of the directors boxes.
FMac Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 Will there be more than 96 corporate boxes? Each box has to have an identifier anyway. They could have photo's from happier times on the walls, celebrating their lives rather than just mourning their death. Each box holder could get in touch with the relatives, thereby having a meaningful relationship with the core of the club, rather than being (purely) prawn sandwich brigade. Once these (frequently influential) people hear the individual stories, the Justice campaign could get some powerful voices. Just a thought. Could also have another 39 named after those that died at Heysel, again with photos celebrating their lives. FMac
Rushian Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 I think the corporate box idea is worse than the 96 empty seats idea. Both reek of unneeded mawkishness.
Jezzman Posted February 8, 2007 Author Posted February 8, 2007 Could also have another 39 named after those that died at Heysel, again with photos celebrating their lives. FMac Yeah but they're not directly linked to our stadium are they? I think that should be done at Heysel...
RP Posted February 8, 2007 Posted February 8, 2007 The corporate box idea gives me the creeps. Hate to think of the sales pitch.
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