FAO NYR

[Swagger]

You said in another thread that Kraft would have been the ideal owner, and I for one agree.

 

What I am unsure about - mainly due to the fact that it is hard to differentiate the fiction from the fact - is the extent of Kraft's actual negotiations with the club. Was he definitely interested? Was he actually close to making a formal bid?

 

A lot of rubbish gets circulated on the net, and Fat Dunk from Kraptalk led his readers to believe that Kraft walked away since he insisted on full ownership of the club whilst Moores at the time was only interested in selling part ownership (similar to the Thai deal). Any truth to this? If so, how come Kraft wasn't back on the scene once Moores came around to the idea of a complete sale?

[IgPig]

You said in another thread that Kraft would have been the ideal owner, and I for one agree.

 

What I am unsure about - mainly due to the fact that it is hard to differentiate the fiction from the fact - is the extent of Kraft's actual negotiations with the club. Was he definitely interested? Was he actually close to making a formal bid?

 

A lot of rubbish gets circulated on the net, and Fat Dunk from Kraptalk led his readers to believe that Kraft walked away since he insisted on full ownership of the club whilst Moores at the time was only interested in selling part ownership (similar to the Thai deal). Any truth to this? If so, how come Kraft wasn't back on the scene once Moores came around to the idea of a complete sale?

 

You've answered your own question there I think

[live]

this thread is just going to turn into a body surfing tutorial, you really should know better

[Swagger]

You've answered your own question there I think

 

Not really. Whilst a lot was propbably made up by him, there is no denying that there was contact and dialogue between Kraft and Parry. My question to NYR, who seems to be in the know to an extent, is what was the exact nature of the dialogue.

[fyds]

Not really. Whilst a lot was propbably made up by him, there is no denying that there was contact and dialogue between Kraft and Parry. My question to NYR, who seems to be in the know to an extent, is what was the exact nature of the dialogue.

Kraft wasn't sure then if the club was overvalued - at the time, we were also a lot less further down the road in going through the hoops with the new stadium, whereas that is now ready and waiting to go. It's only since we got the 999 year lease signed and removed the remaining official objections for the Stadium that we have been 100% 'ripe' for a takeover - before that, there was still a lot of sorting to do so for Kraft, times were different than they are now for Gillett and Hicks.

Edited February 3, 2007 by fyds

[New York Red]

Yes, there was serious negotiations with Kraft. Here's the story...

 

A friend of mine put together the deal for the New England Patriots new stadium. He is about the best there is at doing those deals. The Krafts were so impressed with him that he's become their confidente to a certain extent. My frind was approached by Liverpool to put in a bid for the new stadium. My frinds discussions came around to LFC with them and the Krafdts had already been speaking to LFC so my friend got involved.

 

The Krafts felt the team was overvalued. But, they were very, very interested. They felt that there was an unknown, and potentially, huge value to the historical footage of the club.

 

Bob Kraft was not over to visit, but Jonathan Kraft was, and on more than one occasion I believe. I think they could have negotiated their way around the clost issue. The main issue for the Krafts was this. They just weren't comfortable enough with the team and didn't want to get involved in something that they felt they should learn more about. I think that says it all really. They weren't prepared to take a chance to screw things up both for themselves AND for the club. Pulling out was the magnanimous and right thing to do.

 

They are keeping an eye on things however...

[lawrie]

They are keeping an eye on things however...

 

Hmmm, a new pile of straws to clutch then

[Swagger]

Thanks for clearing that out.

[fyds]

Yes, there was serious negotiations with Kraft. Here's the story...

 

A friend of mine put together the deal for the New England Patriots new stadium. He is about the best there is at doing those deals. The Krafts were so impressed with him that he's become their confidente to a certain extent. My frind was approached by Liverpool to put in a bid for the new stadium. My frinds discussions came around to LFC with them and the Krafdts had already been speaking to LFC so my friend got involved.

 

The Krafts felt the team was overvalued. But, they were very, very interested. They felt that there was an unknown, and potentially, huge value to the historical footage of the club.

 

Bob Kraft was not over to visit, but Jonathan Kraft was, and on more than one occasion I believe. I think they could have negotiated their way around the clost issue. The main issue for the Krafts was this. They just weren't comfortable enough with the team and didn't want to get involved in something that they felt they should learn more about. I think that says it all really. They weren't prepared to take a chance to screw things up both for themselves AND for the club. Pulling out was the magnanimous and right thing to do.

 

They are keeping an eye on things however...

That sounds right all round. Who knows - maybe somewhere down the line...