Dominus Maximus Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 ////////////////////////////////////Out of ten//////////////////////////////////// Reina - 6, Nothing to do reallyHyppia - 7, did his job, nothing moreCarragher - 5, really looking out of sortsAgger - 4, worst game in the red shirt for himFinnan - 6, tried, looked negatively implicated in the goal incidentRiise - 6, - few rushes, nothing impressiveAlonso - 8, he is the true midfield generalGerrard - 5, nothing from him, looked average at bestGonzalez - 5, did not create anything, Crouch - 4, sorry lad but you missed too many chancesBellamy 7, good movement, no real scoring chances Subs Kuyt - 5, Missed a sitter,Aurelio, not enough timeGarcia - 5 Missed a good chance
_00_deathscar Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Alonso - 9 ~ When you need someone to stand up, he does.Bellamy - 8 ~ Good running Everyone else - 3 Peter Crouch - 2
Florist Cinema Pond Goal Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Bellamy didn't deserve to be on the losing side, we had no chance once he had to go off.
Cisse Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Reina 6Hyypia 6, cost us the goal, should have cleared the challengeCarra 6Agger5Riise 5Finnan 6SG 6Xabi 7Gonzalez 4Bellers 7Crouch 5Kuyt 6Aurelio 4Garcia 5
Rimbeux Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 The manager has to take a huge part of the blame, most of it
techmob Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 xabi - 8 aurelio - 1 the rest well below average
Sion Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Alonso - 9 ~ When you need someone to stand up, he does.Bellamy - 8 ~ Good running Everyone else - 3 Peter Crouch - 2 Change Alonso to 8 and Bellamy 7 and i'll go with that
madaboutlfc Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Reina 6Hyypia4Carra 6Agger5Riise 5Finnan 5SG 6Xabi 8Gonzalez 3Bellers 7Crouch 1Kuyt 6Aurelio 4Garcia 5
anny road Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Alonso - 9 ~ When you need someone to stand up, he does.Bellamy - 8 ~ Good running Everyone else - 3 Peter Crouch - 2 jesus christ Reina 6Hyypia4Carra 6Agger5Riise 5Finnan 5SG 6Xabi 8Gonzalez 3Bellers 7Crouch 1Kuyt 6Aurelio 4Garcia 5 jesus christ The manager has to take a huge part of the blame, most of it why
_00_deathscar Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 jesus christjesus christwhy If you think anyone other than Alonso and Bellamy actually deserved more than a 5 you're f***ing mental mate.
Bootle Buck Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Reina - 6, Nothing to do reallyHyppia - 6, did his job, looked clumsy at timesCarragher - 5, PoorAgger - not physical enough and looked unsure with the formationFinnan - 6, OK going forward got sucked in (again) for the goalRiise - 6, - few rushes, nothing impressiveAlonso - 7, Worked hard but gave the ball away a lotGerrard - 5, nothing from him, looked average at bestGonzalez - 5, did not create anything, He's not going to make it.Crouch - 4, Missed too many chances and looked pissed off coming off (something Rafa won't like)Bellamy 7, good movement, looked too much like Cisse shaking his head and stopping. Subs Kuyt - 5, Missed a sitter, too distracted with the Blackburn playersAurelio, not enough timeGarcia - 5 When will he learn not to commit silly fouls every time he goes for the ball. Rafa - 3 We have been playing with confidence and he should have used a similar line up to Wigan and Charlton but opted for three CB's which didn't work. If he is going to play Crouchie give him a proper run out.
anny road Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 If you think anyone other than Alonso and Bellamy actually deserved more than a 5 you're f***ing mental mate. ill tell you whats mental, claiming that players are a !1" or a "2" whatever that means Of course there were players under par but they were not as bad as you are making out its like listening to a f***ing 4 year old
_00_deathscar Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 ill tell you whats mental, claiming that players are a !1" or a "2" whatever that means Of course there were players under par but they were not as bad as you are making out There's a difference between 'under par' and utter s***. Under par is Kuyt againsts Charlton, utter s*** is what Gerrard was today.
madaboutlfc Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 ill tell you whats mental, claiming that players are a !1" or a "2" whatever that means Of course there were players under par but they were not as bad as you are making out its like listening to a f***ing 4 year oldthe 1 was for him being on the pitch.. apart from that i didnt see anything.. usually he does some decent work like hold up the ball etc but today he did f all
Rimbeux Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 why The tactics. Gonzalez was playing left midfield in a 4-4-2 for some reason with everyone else playing 5-3-2. Either he was instructed to do that, failed to understand instructions, or diregarded instructions, it wasn't fixed at half time, then Aurelio replaced him and played the same. All game long we had two/three guys playing the left channel, five/six in the middle, and one on the right, Finnan, who did very well personally. It was a dogs dinner, either somebody needed to tuck in and play in front of Alonso and Gerrard in a central three to make some use of that system with a spare man between the lines or we had to get a defender off and play two wide, rather than chasing the game with so few getting into the box, and us loaded with bodies on the left. it's one thing not taking the chances that came our way in the first half, but to try chase the game with a plan that was failing and getting worse has to sit with the manager. Subs are a whole new thread
Guest Cameron Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Pepe 6Sami 7Carra 6Agger 5Finnan 6Gonzales 4Alonso 8Gerrard 5Riise 6Bellamy 8Crouch 4
anny road Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 The tactics. Gonzalez was playing left midfield in a 4-4-2 for some reason with everyone else playing 5-3-2. Either he was instructed to do that, failed to understand instructions, or diregarded instructions, it wasn't fixed at half time, then Aurelio replaced him and played the same. All game long we had two/three guys playing the left channel, five/six in the middle, and one on the right, Finnan, who did very well personally. It was a dogs dinner, either somebody needed to tuck in and play in front of Alonso and Gerrard in a central three to make some use of that system with a spare man between the lines or we had to get a defender off and play two wide, rather than chasing the game with so few getting into the box, and us loaded with bodies on the left. it's one thing not taking the chances that came our way in the first half, but to try chase the game with a plan that was failing and getting worse has to sit with the manager. Subs are a whole new thread we should have won end of the fault is with the players whi missed the chances, you either take them or you dont...442 / 532 / 118 doesnt matter unless u score and had plenty of chances
Stevie H Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 finnan was his usual excellent self. agger, alonso, gerrard, carra and crouch had poor games by their standards. bellamy played well. giving players a '1' or a '2' is tabloid s****.
Coyler Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Alonso was ticking over nicely in the first half and got pro-active in the second half. Bellamy was great to-day and the clear MOM. Finnan really played well in the first half especially, and even though he was probably to blame for the goal he was still ahead of the rest as regards contribution seeing as he was instrumental in most of the missed chances. Just an annoying result. A really, really annoying result against a pack of c*nts. Lucas Neill was a bit schidt, as well, by the way.
Rimbeux Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 we should have won end of the fault is with the players whi missed the chances, you either take them or you dont...442 / 532 / 118 doesnt matter unless u score and had plenty of chances They weren't chanceless, and we were not playing great. We were not set up in a way that gave us control of the game, and the set up didn't change after we went behind, and in no way helped us chase the game. We can talk about the chances we missed in the first half, but the was most of a half left to get back into the game.
Guest AnfieldGrass Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 Reina 5Hyypia 6Carra 6Agger 5Riise 4Finnan 7SG 6Xabi 7.5Gonzalez 4Bellers 8Crouch 2 The s***ty 5-2-1-2 system (or whatever the hell that was) - 0
LicK Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 The tactics. Gonzalez was playing left midfield in a 4-4-2 for some reason with everyone else playing 5-3-2. You again? We didn't play 5-3-2. If you'd paid attention we were 4-4-2 for almost all of the time Gonzalez was on. Perhaps if Warnock was properly fit Riise would have been 'rested' by now and the left side might have been a little better today. And you made it clear on the other thread your idea of tactical genius is taking off a centre half to throw another forward on with 30 mins left, so presumably you'd like us to sign Robert Huth? Bellamy 7, good movement, no real scoring chances Subs Kuyt - 5, Missed a sitter,Garcia - 5 Missed a good chance While I'm here, the quality of this thread (and some of the others, post-match) can probably be summed up by this. Couldasworn that Bellamy missed a pretty good chance first half. I'm not going to claim he's not good enough or didn't have a good game, but he did miss a good chance regardless. It's just not as simple as some people round here would like it to be.
Dominus Maximus Posted December 26, 2006 Author Posted December 26, 2006 And you made it clear on the other thread your idea of tactical genius is taking off a centre half to throw another forward on with 30 mins left, so presumably you'd like us to sign Robert Huth? Sorry but the way we play, we could have used Huth. It was all long balls from the defenders up to the strikers for 90 minutes...
Guest AnfieldGrass Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 You again? We didn't play 5-3-2. If you'd paid attention we were 4-4-2 for almost all of the time Gonzalez was on. Perhaps if Warnock was properly fit Riise would have been 'rested' by now and the left side might have been a little better today. And you made it clear on the other thread your idea of tactical genius is taking off a centre half to throw another forward on with 30 mins left, so presumably you'd like us to sign Robert Huth? Sorry mate, but you are wrong. If YOU paid attention you would have seen that as soon as we went into attack, we resorted to a 3-5-2, with bellamy being the only outlet seeing as though crouch was out of sorts. And the major problem was having a heavy left side, with both Riise and Gonzales not understanding their roles, leading to a heck of a lot of confusion down that side. Gonzales had great intentions, but nothing seemd to work out for him, and having no width on the right apart from Finnan going forward, kept stretching bellamy wide, leaving nothing going forward in the middle with any pace. Stevie also looked a bit unsure of this situation, he was obviously asked to sit in front of the back 3, but that left us with litle going forward from the middle. It was long-ball heaven. For a side who were supposed to have a packed midfeild, the Liverpool midfield looked rather sparse. Strange system by Rafa, but we live and learn.
Rimbeux Posted December 26, 2006 Posted December 26, 2006 You again? We didn't play 5-3-2. If you'd paid attention we were 4-4-2 for almost all of the time Gonzalez was on. Perhaps if Warnock was properly fit Riise would have been 'rested' by now and the left side might have been a little better today. And you made it clear on the other thread your idea of tactical genius is taking off a centre half to throw another forward on with 30 mins left, so presumably you'd like us to sign Robert Huth? Nonsense, Agger, Carra and Sami played as three centre halves all game, Finnan was right wing back and Riise left wing back. What threw it was Gonzalez holding hands with JAR, and seemingly clueless as to where he was starting and where we should be running to, a wasted player. When you have three centre halves at the back, marking two centre forwards, one nil down, ie you have a spare man and you are chasing the game, yes taking one off and going 4-4-2 is a more than reasonable option, you get geniune width going, stretch the game and have at least two to aim for in the box
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