According to UEFA.com Liverpool would have won

[Mono]

http://www.uefa.com/magazine/news/Kind=655...sId=489993.html

A bit simplistic or interesting logic?

Edited December 19, 2006 by Mono

[Tosh]

Didn't the old Kop used to suck the ball into the net?

 

Does it strike anyone else as odd how FEW of our players in that pic - or getting their medals - were wearing their match top? Gerrard and Josemi aside, they all seem to be wearing the T-shirts to mocker them all.

 

I must keep an eye out on ebay for Didi's top, for example.

Edited December 19, 2006 by Tosh

[Guest Scot]

Phorum Dunce?

[Bailo]

'Twas only a matter of time!

[Falconhoof]

We were succesful playing a short passing game while every other English club was still playing long balls which would be more susceptible to the wind. maybe there is something in Vialli's research.

[Guest Portly]

It's clever of Vialli to point that out. It's one of those blindingly obvious facts that nobody had thought of before! It also explains why kids who grow up in countries like Australia and South Africa tend to be better cricketers than kids brought up in England.

 

A similar insight was provided by the academic who analysed the birthdays of footballers in the Premiership and found that a far larger proportion had birthdays in the 3 months September-November than the 3 months June-August. The answer was that the former group were up to a year older than the latter group when they started school. They were therefore the bigger and stronger kids in their year and did better at football.

[Spike]

Valid point in the original article but fails to realise why Henry was a relative failure at Juve, how someone like zola can be just as good in our league than he was in serie A.

 

Perhaps the secret is that foreign players from the wind friendly leagues should join teams that play the ball on the ground. Mind you, the 80's with ourselves, Forrest and Villa, contradict that article.

 

Ufea f***ing about with balls has changed the game as much as the wind has.

[Maldini]

It's not just the wind, it's the weather as a whole, a kid in Spain can play football out on the road for more days per year than an English kid.

[Guest Scot]

Some good points, but there's also a large cultural difference.

 

In Britain it's all 'get it in the box!', 'get stuck in!', 'attack! attack! attack!'

 

Many's the fan who will boo at backward and sideways passes to keep possession if it's not high-tempo, up-and-at-em football. Climate is a factor, and to isolate wind is interesting as Portly says, but I don't think it's the only explanation. The fact that ourselves and Forest - in particular - were capable of playing patient build-up as well as high-tempo goes a long way to explain our relative success.

[Rimbeux]

Wenger had a load of trees planted at the training ground in a bid to cut down the wind chill factor

[allez les rouges]

haven't english clubs won the european cup more times than any other country?

[Ronnie Whelan]

'Twas only a matter of time!

 

 

Are you saying we should build a load of wind turbines out beside melwood?

[Behind Enemy Lines]

It's not just the wind, it's the weather as a whole, a kid in Spain can play football out on the road for more days per year than an English kid.

 

cos there's less traffic

[Red_Polo]

haven't english clubs won the european cup more times than any other country?

 

11 - Spain

10 - Italy, England

6 - Germany, Netherlands

[Bailo]

Are you saying we should build a load of wind turbines out beside melwood?

[Poolfrog]

It's not just the wind, it's the weather as a whole, a kid in Spain can play football out on the road for more days per year than an English kid.

To be honest there are probably only about three days a year when you can't play football outdoors in England. We have an extremely mild climate with no temperature excesses at either end of the scale. It's not as if we're snowbound in the winter like great swathes of northern Europe and North America. In fact winter has become an extension of autumn with snow a very rare occurrence. On Christmas Day - the middle of winter - I expect to be able to nip along to my local pub in a T-shirt like most years.

 

It gets very nippy in Madrid in winter at 5000 feet above sea level and they seem to cope too, so I would disagree that there's much, if any, difference in opportunities for playing

[allez les rouges]

11 - Spain

10 - Italy, England

6 - Germany, Netherlands

 

so much for our poor performance!

[Cobs]

so much for our poor performance!

and Madrid won the first 5...

 

 

perhaps it's cos them foreigners were unable to play in our windy conditions?

Edited December 20, 2006 by Cobs

[koppper]

Dear Phorum Dunce,

 

As a man clearly ahead of his time, can you please tell us how to improve our chances in Europe with some unique configuration of windmills, presumably using Crouch as a rotating striker?

[Rimbeux]

To be honest there are probably only about three days a year when you can't play football outdoors in England. We have an extremely mild climate with no temperature excesses at either end of the scale. It's not as if we're snowbound in the winter like great swathes of northern Europe and North America. In fact winter has become an extension of autumn with snow a very rare occurrence. On Christmas Day - the middle of winter - I expect to be able to nip along to my local pub in a T-shirt like most years.

 

It gets very nippy in Madrid in winter at 5000 feet above sea level and they seem to cope too, so I would disagree that there's much, if any, difference in opportunities for playing

 

 

Then in that case we're just lazy and inactive, and are allowing our kids to become lazy and inactive, a country where people generally dont play sport for fun anymore, rather excercise to stay thin if they're neurotic enough, or try to 'make it' if you're elite enough. Whatever it is, it certainly aint jumpers for goalposts

[Gunga Din]

11 - Spain

10 - Italy, England

6 - Germany, Netherlands

 

Spain - 11

Italy - 10

Germany, Holland - 6

Peoples Republic of Liverpool - 5

England - 5

[floyd]

Spain - 11

Italy - 10

Germany, Holland - 6

Peoples Republic of Liverpool - 5

England - 5

 

Would of been

Italy - 9

Peoples Republic of Liverpool - 6

If it wasn't for Inter bribing the Ref in 1965

[CaptainXabi]

Spain - 11

Italy - 10

Germany, Holland - 6

Peoples Republic of Liverpool - 5

England - 5

 

To be fair it's more like:

 

Italy - 10

Real Franco - 9

Germany, Holland - 7

Peoples Republic of Liverpool - 5

England - 5

Look we're Catalan - 2

Edited December 20, 2006 by CaptainXabi

[anny road]

SOCIALIST peoples republic of Liverpool ffs

[Cliff M]

and Madrid won the first 5...

perhaps it's cos them foreigners were unable to play in our windy conditions?

 

 

...nah it's because many clubs didn't see it going anywhere (esp English) and stayed away - devaluing those victories.