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Veron - bought and sold

 

Crespo - bought and sold

 

Parker - bought and sold

 

Tutu - bought and sold

 

Jarosik - bought and sold

 

Gudjohnsonn

 

Johnson - bought and sold

 

Del Horno - bought and sold

 

Duff - bought and sold

 

Gallas

 

Huth

 

Kezman - bought and sold

 

Tiago - bought and sold

 

 

 

 

I know I've missed some, but that group right there with the addition of SWP and Sheva who are both rumoured to be on their way would form quite a squad themselves and give many top teams in Europe a run for their money. Notice how only Gallas was the only one allowed to go to a top English team.

 

Some people still say Abramovich's money isn't the only reason Chelsea are so good. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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that list will only get longer and was obvious from the outset that this would be the case...number one rule in the financial world - always watch out for someone willing to buy high and sell for a loss - it's all good clean money :pig: (well it is now...)

 

Chewie

Guest Anders Honoré
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Notice how only Gallas was the only one allowed to go to a top English team.

 

Gallas is also the only one any top English team would have really wanted.

Guest Parr_Zee
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Gallas is also the only one any top English team would have really wanted.

 

You can add Crespo, Duff, Parker, and Gudjohnson for a start...

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Dunno if anyone's seen this, of if it should really go in here, but from the BBC's gossip column:-

 

Chelsea want a new right-back in January and want either Seville's Daniel Alves or Valencia's Miguel. (The Independent)

 

 

I was wondering when his name would be nmentioned. Feirrera and Bahlarouzh are poor signings and Geremi is not a long term solution. You have to wonder if Seville and Alves have just been waiting for a silly money offer.

Guest Toby Brown
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>>Tutu

 

Think he means coke monster Mutu ;)

 

As for Johnson, he's on loan as is Crespo (both season long).

 

Not like your lot haven't seen their fair share of ins and outs though lads is it?

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>>Tutu

 

Think he means coke monster Mutu ;)

 

As for Johnson, he's on loan as is Crespo (both season long).

 

Not like your lot haven't seen their fair share of ins and outs though lads is it?

 

All clubs have ins and outs. World of difference between that and the Chelsea model, which resembles Richie Rich buying all the toys he wants and throwing out of the pram the ones that don't please him. That's up to you of course, your club can afford it, but you'd be daft to suggest that Chelsea's mode of operation was anything like ours, or anyone else's.

Guest Toby Brown
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All clubs have ins and outs. World of difference between that and the Chelsea model, which resembles Richie Rich buying all the toys he wants and throwing out of the pram the ones that don't please him. That's up to you of course, your club can afford it, but you'd be daft to suggest that Chelsea's mode of operation was anything like ours, or anyone else's.

 

 

True, we've bought more players than most, but what a lot of people seem to forget is that half those players on the list were signed by Claudio 'kid in a sweet shop' Ranieri. As soon as a new manager comes in, he's bound to have his own ideas and want to make changes

 

Of those on the list, only Del Horno, Jaroski, Kezman and Tiago were signed by Mourinho.

 

Del Horno proved he couldn't cope in this league, Jarosik was only ever a short term deal to cover injuries, Kezman had a record that bettered Van Nostrilboy in Holland (couldn't hit a cows a*** with a banjo over here) and Tiago wanted to leave, although Mourinho wanted to keep him.

 

Take Clownio Ranieri out of the equation, and it looks far more sensible, as does your recent history when you remove some of Houlliers errors in the transfer market.

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True, we've bought more players than most, but what a lot of people seem to forget is that half those players on the list were signed by Claudio 'kid in a sweet shop' Ranieri. As soon as a new manager comes in, he's bound to have his own ideas and want to make changes

 

Of those on the list, only Del Horno, Jaroski, Kezman and Tiago were signed by Mourinho.

 

Del Horno proved he couldn't cope in this league, Jarosik was only ever a short term deal to cover injuries, Kezman had a record that bettered Van Nostrilboy in Holland (couldn't hit a cows a*** with a banjo over here) and Tiago wanted to leave, although Mourinho wanted to keep him.

 

Take Clownio Ranieri out of the equation, and it looks far more sensible, as does your recent history when you remove some of Houlliers errors in the transfer market.

 

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Edited by Scot
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True, we've bought more players than most, but what a lot of people seem to forget is that half those players on the list were signed by Claudio 'kid in a sweet shop' Ranieri. As soon as a new manager comes in, he's bound to have his own ideas and want to make changes

 

Of those on the list, only Del Horno, Jaroski, Kezman and Tiago were signed by Mourinho.

 

Del Horno proved he couldn't cope in this league, Jarosik was only ever a short term deal to cover injuries, Kezman had a record that bettered Van Nostrilboy in Holland (couldn't hit a cows a*** with a banjo over here) and Tiago wanted to leave, although Mourinho wanted to keep him.

 

Take Clownio Ranieri out of the equation, and it looks far more sensible, as does your recent history when you remove some of Houlliers errors in the transfer market.

 

You bought the league - before you admit that you can't really involve yourself in any meaningful discussion

 

Without the ludicrous amount of money spent Chelsea would never have won the league

 

And it's criminal the amount of money you spend and then it's more criminal the amount of money you lose on discarded players

 

Plus the fact that your pimp has left all those Russian people in the lurch just adds to that disgrace.

 

If you can't see that - you are intensely deluded.

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You bought the league - before you admit that you can't really involve yourself in any meaningful discussion

 

Without the ludicrous amount of money spent Chelsea would never have won the league

 

And it's criminal the amount of money you spend and then it's more criminal the amount of money you lose on discarded players

 

If you can't see that - you are intensely deluded.

 

It's really is the infinite capacity to ignore the errors that sets chelski apart from any previous attempts to buy the league buy man u, leeds, blackburn etc, it is also what negates any argument about Mourinho being a great manager (he might well be, but at chelski there is no way you can tell) They'll claim anyone can buy tons of players, but it takes a great manager to forge a team. That doesn't really hold true if you can buy a squad that gives you more chances than any other manager, and discard the failures without a second though. They bought SWP and Ballack because they could, not because they needed them, or thought it would improve the team, but because they may as well. That does not say great management, it says lazy management.

 

Toby mentioned Houllier's failures in the market. That there is the big difference, we are still suffering for the summer of Diouf, Diao and Cheyrou. £20m spent in fees, and god knows how much in wages. Those mistakes have hindered our forays into the transfer market for the last 3 season. It should be over in the summer when Diao is off our wage bill for good, but we certainly can't afford an error like that again.

 

 

I also don't understand why chelski's fans are in denial and get so defensive about the fact they've bought the league. I mean they hadn't won it for 50 years? We other fans like to claim that because they bought it that the feat is somehow diminished and tarnished, but deep down you'd think they wouldn't give a f*ck. Clearly they do.

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so if manu win the league, have they 'bought it' too?

 

how much were ronaldo, rooney, saha, smith, carrick, vidic, evra, howard, rio?

 

what about if we win it? will we have 'bought' it? what is the total cost of Kuyt, Crouch, Bellamy, ALonso, sissoko, Kewell, riise, hyppia, agger, finnan, reina.

 

the problem is not that they spent the money. the problems for everyone are:

 

1. They bought the equivelant of the above in a short time

2. Their mistakes can be rectified quickly.

 

However, doesn't excuse the money they got for gudjohnson, parker, Huth etc. With the money they have, you would have to be stupid to offer 5million for huth.

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True, we've bought more players than most, but what a lot of people seem to forget is that half those players on the list were signed by Claudio 'kid in a sweet shop' Ranieri. As soon as a new manager comes in, he's bound to have his own ideas and want to make changes

 

Of those on the list, only Del Horno, Jaroski, Kezman and Tiago were signed by Mourinho.

 

Del Horno proved he couldn't cope in this league, Jarosik was only ever a short term deal to cover injuries, Kezman had a record that bettered Van Nostrilboy in Holland (couldn't hit a cows a*** with a banjo over here) and Tiago wanted to leave, although Mourinho wanted to keep him.

 

Take Clownio Ranieri out of the equation, and it looks far more sensible, as does your recent history when you remove some of Houlliers errors in the transfer market.

Let's thing=k about this for a second.

"Clownio" Ranieri was responsible for the signings of Makelele,Petr Cech,Joe Cole,Lampard,Cech,Robben,Duff,Gallas,Gudjohnson and the promotion of John Terry into the side.

Those have been the vital ingredients of your side,the mainstays,and you label him a clown?

Perhaps you ought to research football,or even follow the sport,before coming onto other fans websites and acting like you know anything about the game.

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Let's thing=k about this for a second.

"Clownio" Ranieri was responsible for the signings of Makelele,Petr Cech,Joe Cole,Lampard,Cech,Robben,Duff,Gallas,Gudjohnson and the promotion of John Terry into the side.

Those have been the vital ingredients of your side,the mainstays,and you label him a clown?

Perhaps you ought to research football,or even follow the sport,before coming onto other fans websites and acting like you know anything about the game.

 

To be fair, the same applies for many Liverpool fans regarding Houllier.

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To be fair, the same applies for many Liverpool fans regarding Houllier.

I'm well aware of that.

Except those Chelsea players have been crucial part of a long period of success.A consistent level of success in the league that our European Cup winning side have been incapable of.

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A core set was bought, or brought through by Houllier though ~

 

Riise, Finnan, Carra, Hyypia, Gerrard, Kewell...

They were,but to be fair they haven't achieved anywhere near the success like the core set brought through by Ranieri.

The best teams win the league.

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