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Fowler and Owen


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Guest Anders Honoré
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Along with Del Piero, those two were the best teenage strikers I have ever seen. Yet, their supposedly best years have been (and are) passing us by and neither have truly gone on to fulfil their massive potential when they first burst on to the scene.

 

Even without working well together, they should have been the best striking duo in the world. A real shame we never got to see that.

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I don't think they ever quite clicked together - Fowler had more of a football brain and was involved with everything. Owen had lots of pace and was a great finisher - but couldn't do the poaching, movement and setup play that Fowler could do

Guest Anders Honoré
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I don't think they ever quite clicked together - Fowler had more of a football brain and was involved with everything. Owen had lots of pace and was a great finisher - but couldn't do the poaching, movement and setup play that Fowler could do

 

Owen was/is a brilliant poacher. I'd say his ability to get into the right positions is better than Fowler's.

 

Even without gelling that well, I think the sheer number of goals they would get would make them a great partnership.

 

To be honest, I think as they matured, it could have worked fairly well. Fowler was good in the linkup when asked to play more withdrawn and Owen developed his passing game to a level where without being particularly creative, he hardly ever gave the ball away. Not quite the blinkers-wearing sprinter he started out as.

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They were goddamn awful together for the most part. Those two together made the long ball a complete waste of time especially on a muddy pitch in january, we are much better with a big man to hold up the ball.

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Fowler, Baros, Shearer, Rooney, Ronaldo.

 

Was there anyone other than Heskey that Owen could play with?

 

I know a lot of it was bollx, but I've never known a player that was accused of not being to be able to play with so many strike partners whereever he went.

Guest Anders Honoré
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Fowler, Baros, Shearer, Rooney, Ronaldo.

 

Was there anyone other than Heskey that Owen could play with?

 

I know a lot of it was bollx, but I've never known a player that was accused of not being to be able to play with so many strike partners whereever he went.

 

As I recall, the media were lambasting the coach for not playing Owen with Ronaldo more often as Ronaldo was much more prolific with Owen alongside him and Owen, well... He scored goals and Raul didn't.

 

He was also more prolific when playing with Smicer and Litmanen than with Heskey, which I think dispels the myth that he needed a targetplayer to play off. Although his somewhat brief partnerships with Smith and Crouch for England looked good. He also gelled well with Anelka.

 

I don't recall him and Rooney being a bad partnership. If anything, it was Rooney and his rather singleminded approach that benefited from Owen's teamplay during the euros.

 

And I don't think anyone can be critisised for not playing well with Baros.

 

So that leaves Fowler and Shearer. Although Shearer did say he much preferred playing with Owen than someone like Cole who as strikers go, was fairly good in the link-up.

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As I recall, the media were lambasting the coach for not playing Owen with Ronaldo more often as Ronaldo was much more prolific with Owen alongside him and Owen, well... He scored goals and Raul didn't.

 

He was also more prolific when playing with Smicer and Litmanen than with Heskey, which I think dispels the myth that he needed a targetplayer to play off. Although his somewhat brief partnerships with Smith and Crouch for England looked good. He also gelled well with Anelka.

 

I don't recall him and Rooney being a bad partnership. If anything, it was Rooney and his rather singleminded approach that benefited from Owen's teamplay during the euros.

 

And I don't think anyone can be critisised for not playing well with Baros.

 

So that leaves Fowler and Shearer. Although Shearer did say he much preferred playing with Owen than someone like Cole who as strikers go, was fairly good in the link-up.

 

I agree (as I said) most of the criticism was bollx, specially when you pick it apart, but the has defnitely been criticism that Owen cannot play with various partners over his career. In fact I think the only valid criticism is Owen and Rooney, Owen has definitely not looked the same player for England since Heskey was dropped

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Much as I love Robbie, he never looked capabe of transferring his abilities to the intiernational stage, unlike Mickey...

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Much as I love Robbie, he never looked capabe of transferring his abilities to the intiernational stage, unlike Mickey...

 

That was because he was unlucky enough to arrive at a time when a tried and trusted front 2 of Shearer & Sheringham were cemented as England's first choice strikers. Was very hard for him to break into the team on an ongoing basis. Had Shearer not been around, then I think Fowler would have been a top International striker.

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Much as I love Robbie, he never looked capabe of transferring his abilities to the intiernational stage, unlike Mickey...

 

Remind me of Fowler's international record as you seem to be so well informed?

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7 goals in 26 appearances

 

Which ain't bad in itself, but even better when you remember that he only started 11 of those.

 

7 goals in 11 starts is a pretty good record and far from looking incapabable of transfering his abilities to the international stage.

He performed whenever he was given the opportunity.

Guest Anders Honoré
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How many goals has he scored in those starts though?

  • 17 years later...
Posted
Just now, BDB said:

6 meters. How long did he play in Europe 

6 meters is a bit of a distance to sit away from the TV, must have had a big living room/TV

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