Two good things to come out of today

[Guest Kev]

The runway song loud and clear on the tv.

 

Reina had a good game and was really unlucky for the first goal.

[Guest JohnHoulding]

Sadly the best thing about today's game for me is that we only conceded 2.

[Gunga Din]

the best thing for me was that i hadnt far to travel home.

 

and i pissed on the floor in the Old Trafford toilets. petty, but strangely satisfying. i didnt do any plumbing though, although i really wanted to

[Nebraska Red]

for me, the best thing is that it was over early and I have enough other things to do to take my mind off what I watched.

[Ostrich Man]

winning 2-0.

 

 

and darren fletcher being better than your entire midfield.

 

and hes shyte.

[oakie bob]

winning 2-0.

and darren fletcher being better than your entire midfield.

 

and hes shyte.

 

 

BYE OM

[Ostrich Man]

BYE OM

come on the amount of abuse i take on here, surely youll allow me a little gloating.

 

 

[oakie bob]

come on the amount of abuse i take on here, surely youll allow me a little gloating.

 

i thought your ma took all the abuse

[Ostrich Man]

she laughed when rios goal went in also.

[oakie bob]

she laughed when rios goal went in also.

 

 

ban yer ma yer manc c***

[fyds]

she laughed when rios goal went in also.

Just his goal?

[Ostrich Man]

Just his goal?

no she also laughed at scholesy's goal and when crouch came on.

[oakie bob]

no she also laughed at scholesy's goal and when crouch came on.

 

you really should lay off the shandy drinks

[Ostrich Man]

stoned cold sober me.

[oakie bob]

stoned cold sober me.

 

enjoy it

[Cooldude]

Well the best thing about today is we cannot play any worse

[Dule]

United were the better team, but that crap about fletcher cannot surely stick.

[Redkop]

Well the best thing about today is we cannot play any worse

 

You reckon?

[kop205]

The runway song loud and clear on the tv.

 

 

As in 'Who's that dying on the runway?' - or do they have some sort of 'ironic' version asking us why we don't sing it anymore?

 

Because I would struggle to see how the 'original' being sung was a 'good thing'.

 

Didn't hear it myself - though I could hear 'we won it twice but nobody died'.

[Bigal]

did you hear you killed your own fans?

 

Did you hear 96 it wasnt enough?

 

did you see some of them putting the meshing across their faces?

[Cobs]

As in 'Who's that dying on the runway?' - or do they have some sort of 'ironic' version asking us why we don't sing it anymore?

 

'bout midway through the 2nd half - sounded like our fans singing the original version to huge cheers from the Mancs in that they'd managed to goad it out of them.

 

Sad but understandable.

[Spoone]

and i pissed on the floor in the Old Trafford toilets. petty, but strangely satisfying. i didnt do any plumbing though, although i really wanted to

 

Why's that satisfying when the only people it will affect is your fellow fans who have to stand in it after you?

[Bigal]

That was Wayne's piss? Noooooooooooooooo

[plonky]

Why's that satisfying when the only people it will affect is your fellow fans who have to stand in it after you?

 

 

Wouldn't worry, the coppers saw to it that no one was allowed to go the bog until letting out time

[kop205]

did you hear you killed your own fans?

 

Did you hear 96 it wasnt enough?

 

did you see some of them putting the meshing across their faces?

 

What is your point? I asked how those chants being heard was a 'good thing', not why were people singing them.

 

Do you not think the people doing that have been brought up on stories of / heard for themselves plenty of times the old Munich songs? Don't you think that is exactly how they justify their pathetic actions?

 

If you think they are wrong/sick/pathetic to do that, then there is no case that can be made to defend our fans who responded. If you argue that we were 'just retaliating' then they can argue that too - albeit from a 'historical persepctive'. Either way, regardless of who 'started it' - they will always say it was initially us, we will always say they are the ones who continue it - there is something hugely ironic, or moronic even, about using Munich songs as the method of registering your disgust at their Hillsborough/Heysel songs. And I say that as someone who was personally affected by Hillsborough (albeit not to the extent of ebing bereaved, though it was close) and who was has seen first hand the vile stuff that their fans are capable of at Old Trafford.

 

Nobody comes out of it looking any better than anyone else, but given as Liverpool and not Manchester United are my concern I'll leave them to put their own house order, or not - whatever they choose to do. I'll focus on things from a Liverpool persepctive and I just wish to God that we would draw a line under it now and not respond. What earthly purpose does it serve to chant back at them about Munich?

 

I'll no doubt get absolutely slated for this post and I know that there are those who feel that, in the heat of the moment, a Munich chant is the appropriate response to a Hillsborough one because the w*****s goading us think we won't dare respond and so we call their bluff (although surely they KNOW some will respond and that is why they do it). I just fail to see how such chants being heard on live TV is a 'good thing', which was the original premise of this thread. If it was going to open up an honest debate about the faults on both sides then maybe it would be but that isn't going to happen.

 

Obviously all my opinion and I know that loads will disagree so I'm not trying to change and am not looking to start a big debate. My first post was asking a genuine question and was straight away seized upon, so I'll leave it there I think.

Edited October 23, 2006 by kop205