Leo No.8 Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Who are your top three in the following categories at Liverpool right now. Technical Ability (I'd say 1. Garcia 2. Alonso 3. Gerrard) Work Rate (1. Sissoko 2. Kuyt 3. Crouch) Influencing Others (1. Gerrard 2. Carragher 3. Kuyt) Intelligence (1. Alonso 2. Finnan 3. Agger) Passing (1. Alonso 2. Gerrard 3. Agger) Shooting (1. Gerrard 2. Kuyt 3. Kewell) Dribbling (1. Gerrard 2. Kewell 3. Pennant) Heading (1. Hyypia 2. Kuyt 3. Crouch)
honourablegeorge Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 If Crouch is out third best in the air, then, for such a big side, we're crap in the air. Work rate thing is about spot on. Shame it's not more in doubt. Where's Gerrard?
Leo No.8 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Posted October 18, 2006 If Crouch is out third best in the air, then, for such a big side, we're crap in the air. Work rate thing is about spot on. Shame it's not more in doubt. Where's Gerrard? I know what you're saying about Crouch, ie he isn't a great header of the ball and I'd agree. However, in all honestly we really aren't that fantastic in the air for a big side. Fact is if anyone's going to score with a header its going to be Hyypia or Crouch so I had to put him in there really. I was actually tempted to put Garcia in, he is a good little header of the ball when he gets the opportunity. Stevie is number one for influencing others, dribbling and shooting as well as inclusions in passing and technical ability so I'd say he gets a fair mention!
Guest Jack Bauer Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Crouch is s*** at heading. I'd have Kewell, Gerrard and Garcia ahead of him.
abc Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Technical Ability 1. Garcia 2. Alonso 3. Gerrard Work Rate1. Sissoko 2. Kuyt 3. Crouch Influencing Others1. Carra 2. Gerrard3. ? Intelligence 1. Alonso2. Garcia (only in the final third)3. Kewell Passing1. Alonso 2. Gerrard 3. Agger Shooting 1. Gerrard 2. Riise3. ? Dribbling 1. Gerrard 2. Pennant3. Finnan (keeps the ball surprisingly well when running with it) Heading 1. Hyypia 2. Kewell3. Garcia Haven't seen enough of Kuyt so haven't included him except for work rate...
honourablegeorge Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I was actually tempted to put Garcia in, he is a good little header of the ball when he gets the opportunity. Stevie is number one for influencing others, dribbling and shooting as well as inclusions in passing and technical ability so I'd say he gets a fair mention! Garcia's fantastic with his head for his size, he really is. That little flicked header he scored last year, it was BEAUTIFUL. But yeah, the likes of Riise (six two, isn't he?), Carragher, Sissoko, etc - amazing we don't seem to get the headers from corners and the like. I meant that Gerrard was conspicuously absent from the work rate top three - something that would never have been the case not so long ago.
Bjarkinn Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Technical Ability GarciaGerrardAlonso Work RateSissokoGerrard Crouch Influencing Others GerrardCarragherhaven't got a clue Intelligence AlonsoGarciaGerrard PassingAlonsoGerrardAgger Shooting GerrardRiiseAlonso Dribbling PennantGerrard Aurelio Heading hyypiaKuytGarcia
Andy @ Allerton Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Technical Ability : Alonso, Gerrard, Kewell Work Rate : Gerrard, Sissoko, Kuyt Influencing Others : Carragher, Hyypia, Reina Intelligence : Alonso, Kuyt, Hyypia Passing : Alonso, Kuyt, Crouch Shooting : Riise, Gerrard, Fowler Dribbling : Kuyt, Gonzales, Kewell Heading : Hyppia, Carragher, Agger I can't believe anyone has got Gerrard in for passing ability - he gives the ball away more than garcia!
honourablegeorge Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Aye, wouldn't have Gerrard in for "Passing" or "Intelligence". I must sound like one of those "Gerrard is rubbbish" idiots, I don't mean to.
_00_deathscar Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 How about adding FINISHING in there too? My choices... Technical ability: 1. Garcia, 2. Alonso 3. Gerrard Work rate: 1. Sissoko, 2. Kuyt, 3. Crouch Influencing others: 1. Gerrard, 2. Carragher, 3. Alonso Intelligence: 1. Alonso, 2. Agger, 3. Finnan Passing: 1. Alonso, 2. Gerrard, 3. Agger Shooting: 1. Gerrard, 2. Riise, 3. Alonso Finishing: 1. Fowler, 2. Garcia, 3. Kuyt? Dribbling: 1. Gerrard, 2. Kewell, 3. Garcia Heading: 1. Hyypia, 2. Garcia, 3. Gerrard?
Chili Palmer Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Aye, wouldn't have Gerrard in for "Passing" or "Intelligence". I must sound like one of those "Gerrard is rubbbish" idiots, I don't mean to. Or influencing others, does that mean encouraging others or influencing the game, if it means the latter then yes but I wouldn't say he encourages anyone.
_00_deathscar Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Technical Ability : Alonso, Gerrard, Kewell I can't believe anyone has got Gerrard in for passing ability - he gives the ball away more than garcia! I suppose you think Jenas is a great passer of the ball? He never gives it away...
Coyler Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 González looks like an animal header of the ball.
Andy @ Allerton Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 I suppose you think Jenas is a great passer of the ball? He never gives it away... It probably needs another category to be honest - Gerrard is capable of amazing passes - but generally speaking gives the ball away far, far too much. Whereas, for instance, Alonso is capable of amazing passes but generally speaking retains possession for us (I know he's had a few howlers for us this season - but that hopefully is a temporary thing)
Coyler Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 It probably needs another category to be honest - Gerrard is capable of amazing passes - but generally speaking gives the ball away far, far too much. Whereas, for instance, Alonso is capable of amazing passes but generally speaking retains possession for us (I know he's had a few howlers for us this season - but that hopefully is a temporary thing)"Keeping possession" and then "Incisive passing"?
Guest Anders Honoré Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 (edited) Technical Ability 1. Garcia 2. Kewell3. Gerrard Work Rate1. Sissoko 2. Gerrard 3. Kuyt Influencing Others1. Xabi 2. Gerrard3. Crouch Intelligence 1. Alonso2. Kewell3. Fowler Passing1. Alonso 2. Gerrard 3. Agger Shooting 1. Gerrard 2. Riise3. Fowler Dribbling 1. Kewell 2. Gerrard3. Pennant Heading 1. Hyypia 2. Kewell3. Gerrard Edited October 18, 2006 by Anders Honoré
Andy @ Allerton Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Or influencing others, does that mean encouraging others or influencing the game, if it means the latter then yes but I wouldn't say he encourages anyone. I agree with that.
_00_deathscar Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 "Keeping possession" and then "Incisive passing"? Alonso, Kewell, Crouch would probably be my top 3 for keeping possession (in that order)...
Coyler Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 (edited) Kuijt would be pissed off at getting overlooked for "keeping possession". The fact that he retains possession through mighty flicks and first-time play-switching might push him into "incisive passing" though. Edited October 18, 2006 by Coyler
Guest Cardie Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Garcia's fantastic with his head for his size, he really is. That little flicked header he scored last year, it was BEAUTIFUL. But yeah, the likes of Riise (six two, isn't he?), Carragher, Sissoko, etc - amazing we don't seem to get the headers from corners and the like. I meant that Gerrard was conspicuously absent from the work rate top three - something that would never have been the case not so long ago. Was just about to suggest Garcia. That header was the year before last against Leverkusen wasn't it (knew exact,ly what he was doing and looped it on the turn from 18 yards).
Philby Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 A number of the first team squad have said that Pongolle has amazing technical skills and regularly dazzles in training. How about an additional category --> Heart 1. Carragher2. Gerrard3. Kuyt
Guest Cardie Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Technical Ability (I'd say 1. Garcia 2. Alonso 3. Gerrard) Work Rate (1. Sissoko 2. Kuyt 3. Riise (honourable mention to Alonso who get's through a massive amount of work as well)) Influencing Others (1. Gerrard 2. Carragher 3. Kuyt) Intelligence (1. Alonso 2. Finnan 3. Agger) Passing (1. Alonso 2. Gerrard 3. Agger) Shooting (1. Gerrard 2. Kuyt 3. Kewell) Dribbling (1. Gerrard 2. Kewell 3. Pennant) Heading (1. Hyypia 2. Kuyt 3. Garcia)
Stevie H Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Garcia is way ahead of Crouch in heading ability.agree. although the same could probably also be said for frankie dettori.
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