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8%? I'm not having that

 

"I know Chelsea's winner at Reading on Saturday went down as an Ivar Ingimarsson own-goal, but it begs the question: just how many of Frank Lampard's goals are deflected?" asks Adam Walkden.

 

This is a tricky one to answer comprehensively, Adam, as the, ahem, extensive Guardian Unlimited library doesn't include 'Lampard: the West Ham Years', so we were unable to research his output at Upton Park.

 

But we have done the necessary on Lampard's five-and-a-bit years at Stamford Bridge, and are surprised - and disappointed - to report that only six of his 73 goals for Chelsea have been deflected: a miserable 8%. It would seem that Lampard's deflected glory is not as great as the nation's many Frankophobes would have you believe. Still, he's getting better: none of the deflections came in his first two seasons at Stamford Bridge.

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8%? I'm not having that

 

"I know Chelsea's winner at Reading on Saturday went down as an Ivar Ingimarsson own-goal, but it begs the question: just how many of Frank Lampard's goals are deflected?" asks Adam Walkden.

 

This is a tricky one to answer comprehensively, Adam, as the, ahem, extensive Guardian Unlimited library doesn't include 'Lampard: the West Ham Years', so we were unable to research his output at Upton Park.

 

But we have done the necessary on Lampard's five-and-a-bit years at Stamford Bridge, and are surprised - and disappointed - to report that only six of his 73 goals for Chelsea have been deflected: a miserable 8%. It would seem that Lampard's deflected glory is not as great as the nation's many Frankophobes would have you believe. Still, he's getting better: none of the deflections came in his first two seasons at Stamford Bridge.

 

i wonder how many have been clased as OGs though?

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good article on ESPN about lampard:

 

 

TFA:

 

It is easiest to judge Lampard by his goalscoring and a record of five in 15 this season is more than respectable, if inflated by penalties and deflections.

 
While always shot-happy, he seems willing to completely forego beating a defender to take aim at the first possible opportunity. As was illustrated in the World Cup, this has not been a successful policy.

 
Indeed, in a tournament where many reputations were consolidated or enhanced, few had theirs damaged as much as Lampard

Guest Cameron
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8%? I'm not having that

 

"I know Chelsea's winner at Reading on Saturday went down as an Ivar Ingimarsson own-goal, but it begs the question: just how many of Frank Lampard's goals are deflected?" asks Adam Walkden.

 

This is a tricky one to answer comprehensively, Adam, as the, ahem, extensive Guardian Unlimited library doesn't include 'Lampard: the West Ham Years', so we were unable to research his output at Upton Park.

 

But we have done the necessary on Lampard's five-and-a-bit years at Stamford Bridge, and are surprised - and disappointed - to report that only six of his 73 goals for Chelsea have been deflected: a miserable 8%. It would seem that Lampard's deflected glory is not as great as the nation's many Frankophobes would have you believe. Still, he's getting better: none of the deflections came in his first two seasons at Stamford Bridge.

Rubbish! Don't believe it.

Guest Jack Bauer
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The other 92 percent is free kicks which are crosses that evade everyone, or penalties.

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Andy Gray tried to argue that the goal on Saturday should be credited to Lampard on the basis that the original shot was on target.

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Andy Gray tried to argue that the goal on Saturday should be credited to Lampard on the basis that the original shot was on target.

If I was a player I wouldn't wanna claim a goal like that. I'd want all my goals to be clean with no question that I was the scorer. It's the same when strikers claim them when they go off their ar$es from an original shot from someone else.

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If I was a player I wouldn't wanna claim a goal like that. I'd want all my goals to be clean with no question that I was the scorer. It's the same when strikers claim them when they go off their ar$es from an original shot from someone else.

 

Honestly? You're saying that if you were in the penalty area in the last minute of a game against United and someone kicked the ball off your a*** and it went in, you wouldn't claim it as a last minute winner?

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If I was a player I wouldn't wanna claim a goal like that. I'd want all my goals to be clean with no question that I was the scorer. It's the same when strikers claim them when they go off their ar$es from an original shot from someone else.

 

 

Those are almost as amazing as Andy Gray's comments!! :o

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My understanding was that if the ball was going in the net if not stopped by someone then regardless of the deflection that it had later - then that goal should be given to the striker of the ball.

 

In the same way that if a shot originally wasn't heading for the net but then went in after a deflection is given as an oggie?

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Andy Gray tried to argue that the goal on Saturday should be credited to Lampard on the basis that the original shot was on target.

 

Strange he didn't do that with Crouch's goal against Wigan last year, when he insisted it was an og.

Posted

8%? I'm not having that

 

"I know Chelsea's winner at Reading on Saturday went down as an Ivar Ingimarsson own-goal, but it begs the question: just how many of Frank Lampard's goals are deflected?" asks Adam Walkden.

 

This is a tricky one to answer comprehensively, Adam, as the, ahem, extensive Guardian Unlimited library doesn't include 'Lampard: the West Ham Years', so we were unable to research his output at Upton Park.

 

But we have done the necessary on Lampard's five-and-a-bit years at Stamford Bridge, and are surprised - and disappointed - to report that only six of his 73 goals for Chelsea have been deflected: a miserable 8%. It would seem that Lampard's deflected glory is not as great as the nation's many Frankophobes would have you believe. Still, he's getting better: none of the deflections came in his first two seasons at Stamford Bridge.

 

That's probably counting how many og's have come from his shots. He's had more than 6 deflected shots go in.

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