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Worst players who shook the Kop

Cunny

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MarkD

MarkD

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1. Ruddock

2. Dicks

3. Stewart

4. Tanner

5. Babb

 

I'm off a view that Ruddock has to be the worst for a number of reasons including;

- his ability to remain unfit and out of shape

- see football as a hinderance to his lifetsyle

- consider himself an international

- the influence he had on people like Fowler/McManaman/Babb/James/MacAteer - at a time when we had enough talent to be Champions and too few people in the team to recognise it.

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my starter for 5

 

1. Paul Stewart

2. Sean Dundee

3. Torben Piechnik

4. Bruno Cheyrou

5. Istvan Kozma

 

How can we say Kozma, he didnt even play (well one game was it?)

DazzlaJ

DazzlaJ

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1. Ruddock

2. Dicks

3. Stewart

4. Tanner

5. Babb

 

I'm off a view that Ruddock has to be the worst for a number of reasons including;

- his ability to remain unfit and out of shape

- see football as a hinderance to his lifetsyle

- consider himself an international

- the influence he had on people like Fowler/McManaman/Babb/James/MacAteer - at a time when we had enough talent to be Champions and too few people in the team to recognise it.

 

But he broke Andrew Cole's legs

Will

Will

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How can we say Kozma, he didnt even play (well one game was it?)

He played ten first-team games, actually

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downunder

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He played ten first-team games, actually

 

I know it was the days I used to be at the games drunk, was he on the bench and didn't come on? I remember him warming up but not playing.

 

I am not saying he didn't play I just don't remmber it, I remember Dundee at the end of his season, he was s***

fyds

fyds

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my starter for 5

 

1. Paul Stewart

2. Sean Dundee

3. Torben Piechnik

4. Bruno Cheyrou

5. Istvan Kozma

 

 

Oooh - Too young Cunny :)

 

Peter Wall

Tony Hateley

Jack Whitham

Torben Piechnik

Nicky Tanner

Leo No.8

Leo No.8

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Divvy though he is, Ruddock was absolutely outstanding for us for a period - our best centre-half at that time; he had a great leap and attacked the ball well, plus a great left-foot and could pass the ball very well over long distances.

 

Perhaps it doesn't say much for our defence at that time, and he was still of course below the standard of our current centre-halves, but there have been a hell of a lot worse here over the last 15 years alone.

 

My 5 would be:

 

Diao

Stewart

Clough

Piechnik

Dundee

 

I don't think its fair to include players who were bought as bit-parts etc and obviously would never be good enough. You look at those five, and they arrived with big expectations, reputations and for big fees. You're talking about players who 'shook the Kop', which wouldn't be reserves they'd be 'big names' who failed horribly:

 

Diao: £5m transfer fee and performed in The World Cup. Awful footballer - couldn't pass wind.

 

Stewart: Came with an excellent reputation at the time and had done well for Spurs including scoring in the cup final. Big fee at the time of over £2m for what turned out to be a fat, useless lump.

 

Clough: Again, huge reputation, high expectations. Brilliant for about 5 games, then the game in England speeded up so much so quickly he became redundant. He was technically a great footballer, but suddenly the game just passed him by bar the odd flash of genius and he disappeared into obscurity.

 

Piechnik: Was the captain and star performer for Denmark in their European Championships success. Great for us for a few games - then forgot how to play football.

 

Dundee: Arrived with an excellent goalscoring record in the Budesliga and for a decent fee, but genuinely looked like an overweight Sunday League player lumbering about the field. Bizarre.

 

 

Just typing those names gives me shivers...

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fred milne

fred milne

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Divvy though he is, Ruddock was absolutely outstanding for us for a period - our best centre-half at that time; he had a great leap and attacked the ball well, plus a great left-foot and could pass the ball very well over long distances.

He was good in the air and could hit the odd decent diagonal ball with his left foot but there's more to being an outstanding centre-half that that. In the side he played in, I'd say both Wright and Scales were better defenders.

Leo No.8

Leo No.8

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He was good in the air and could hit the odd decent diagonal ball with his left foot but there's more to being an outstanding centre-half that that. In the side he played in, I'd say both Wright and Scales were better defenders.

 

I actually liked Scales, he was steady but he seemed to get injured a lot, and Wright was brilliant 99% of the time but similarly to the likes of Ferdinand, his mistakes were shocking when he did make them. Again though, he must have missed a good few seasons through injury.

 

I'd agree both of those two overall would be preferable to Ruddock, but you've changed my words a little there Fred - I said he was outstanding for a period, not that he was an outstanding centre-half. He was very good in his first full season here and stood out at that time (I think Wright was out long term), but always struggled with mobility and went downhill after that.

 

I still don't think he merits a top 5 worst feature though.

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I actually liked Scales, he was steady but he seemed to get injured a lot, and Wright was brilliant 99% of the time but similarly to the likes of Ferdinand, his mistakes were shocking when he did make them. Again though, he must have missed a good few seasons through injury.

 

I'd agree both of those two overall would be preferable to Ruddock, but you've changed my words a little there Fred - I said he was outstanding for a period, not that he was an outstanding centre-half. He was very good in his first full season here and stood out at that time (I think Wright was out long term), but always struggled with mobility and went downhill after that.

 

I still don't think he merits a top 5 worst feature though.

 

We always looked a more balanced side with Scales in it.....

Guest wezza

Guest wezza

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Im basing mine on players who played quite alot and didnt deserve to:

 

1. Diao

2. Dicks

3. Stewart

4. Diouf

5. Cheyrou

Herbie von Smalls

Herbie von Smalls

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cisse - our record signing. for all his desire to join us, he didn't show much of it on the pitch

litmanen - could and should have seen out his days as our star import

dicks - archetypal souness blunder

collymore - another record signing who looked like a panic buy at the time

stewart - flimsy

 

the likes of diouf, diao and cheyrou all flopped too, but i put that down as much to GH and the way he played them as the players themselves.

Guest Greasy Belcher

Guest Greasy Belcher

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El Hadji Diouf

UNDISPUTED NUMBER 1. - 10 million pound stockin of sh'ite. Waste of money beyond belief. The man who causesd Houlliers heart attack. f***'n rubbish. Never deserved to play against liverpool never mind for liverpool.

 

 

My all time shiiiiiiiite LFC 11, (some out of position / which means they might actually be in the right place by accident)

 

 

----------------------- Hooper-----------------------

 

Josemi --- Kroncamp --- Pelligreno --- Phil Babb

 

Dicks ------- Diao ------- Stewart ------- Speedie

 

---------------- Diouf ------ Mejier----------------

 

 

I don't know how people can suggest Cisse for f sake. forget your bleeding hearts and broken legs bit. The guy came into a new system with a new manager and a price tag impossible to live up to. finished last season 2nd top scorer after constantly being touted to other clubs and played out of position. scored 3 goals and a penalty in cup finals. hardly one of our worst ever players.

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Leo No.8

Leo No.8

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I see Speedie got a mention there. Alwasy a strange one to me that - he scored against the Mancs on his debut and a hat-trick against Everton, totalled 6 goals in 12 games and got binned off again.

 

What was the score with him? I can't remember exactly as I'd have been 13 at the time and I just can't figure it out. He went from us to Blackburn and scored 23 in 36 games as well, although his record at other clubs wasn't great...

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