Fans around you at the game?

[MarkD]

First home game of the season, ok weather, good footballing team to play against, good away support (in numbers and vocal), really up for it. Had a seat in the paddock, mid way between Anfield Road end and half way line. Five past three, seat to the left and in front still empty - about 5 in total - then I sensed people arriving from the left. Tea, pies, crisps, coke, on mobiles chatting away oblivious to the game having started - and these were the adult never mind the kids. They arrived at the seats and then began musical chairs whilst X wanted to sit next to Y etc.

 

At about the moment, Aurelio's free kick was cleared, one of the began with ' f***in' Garcia should have followed that it, he's s****' and thus was set the tone for the remainder of the half with, Garcia, Crouch, Agger and Aurelio either s****, not fit for the shirt or in some cases both. As Gerrard gave away possession, it was 'hard luck Stevie, that's 'cos he's knackered covering for Garcia'.

 

I asked them to shut up a few times but it became difficult. At half time, I talked to one of the the older fellas, who told me they had got season tickets for the first time - knew someone in the ticket office(!) - and if it was going to be this crap they wouldn't have bothered.

 

With about 10 minutes to go, they got up having further abused Bellamy and Zenden and telling all who could hear that Benitez had no idea and we'd be lucky to finish top 4.

 

They were all local guys and embarrassing - with the most supportive thing they were shouting being 'f*** off West Ham', "Who are you?" and "You're not singing anymore".

 

The question is if you sense that our fans at home are becoming just another crowd of bores or have we already got there?

[Molby]

I am shocked, appalled and saddened

 

and I think we are slowly becoming just another crowd, although we'll probably always remain top of the food chain

[Andy @ Allerton]

The lads who sit around me where my S/T is are great - nice lads and knowledgable about the game.

 

There is a welsh t*** who sometimes sits behind me who is a c**k monkey of the highest order - always f***ing moaning about some s**** or other.

[Guest Gaz_J]

Hate to say it, but that sounds like pretty much most match day experiences I've had outside the Kop.

 

It's annoying, but it's been done to death this.

[Sion]

I sat in the moan stand a bit last year for PL games, and the majority of people were terrible. All old men and hecklers, and the only time most of them made an effort to make any noise was for YNWA.

[Guest Kev]

Away games have much more atmosphere than home games - with the odd exception.

 

These new Sky fans have no idea what it's like to support a team.

[Guest Gaz_J]

Away games have much more atmosphere than home games - with the odd exception.

 

These new Sky fans have no idea what it's like to support a team.

 

It's no excuse, but I guess these people are thinking; "Right, I've lashed-out two-grand on season-tickets: Entertain me!"

 

An afternoon at Billy Smarts is to good for these chumps.

[MarkD]

Away games have much more atmosphere than home games - with the odd exception.

 

These new Sky fans have no idea what it's like to support a team.

 

I agree fully. The away games are more often than not a better laugh and with a lot better atmosphere fans - save Charlton/Wimbledon/Crstyal Palace where these games seem to be flooded with day trippers.

[Gunga Din]

guys around me are great. fantastic bunch of lads, dont sing much, as they are mostly over 60, but they know so much about the game and have seen it all.

[_00_deathscar]

There is a welsh t*** who sometimes sits behind me who is a c**k monkey of the highest order - always f***ing moaning about some s**** or other.

 

Didn't know Bellamy sat in the stands

[Guest Kev]

It's no excuse, but I guess these people are thinking; "Right, I've lashed-out two-grand on season-tickets: Entertain me!"

 

 

There is this as well. People appear to me more vocal in criticism these days, you'll never catch me doing that

[downunder]

If people dont sing doesn't make them bad fans....but not singing and having no idea about the game does!

[Guest Kev]

If people dont sing doesn't make them bad fans....but not singing and having no idea about the game does!

 

singing is just a part of it, people who just sit there and moan and never get behind the team are a disgrace. You can stand and shout and give vocal support, join in the odd song. It doesn't take much to make an atmosphere - ask Russ Abbott.

[Guest Paris 81]

It's always been the same as long as I've been going, and that's a good few years. Even during our glory period there were always fellas in the crowd who knew more than the manager, or abused certain players.

 

A lot people go to the match to escape and let out their frustrations, and they pay their money for the priviledge. The players are well paid these days and can take it, or don't care anyway.

 

I do know what you mean though. There's a bloke by me who just moans non stop from the minute he arrives until the minute he leaves, especially about Garcia. It's frustrating when you're trying to get behind the side and urge them on.

[downunder]

singing is just a part of it, people who just sit there and moan and never get behind the team are a disgrace. You can stand and shout and give vocal support, join in the odd song. It doesn't take much to make an atmosphere - ask Russ Abbott.

 

I couldnt agree more, I think there has only ever been one player I got depressed about seeing play...Bruno Cheryou. I went to most home games for 15 years and never gave anything but my full support for every player who played for us, all I wanted was us to win. Yes I got frustarted with them but I always believed they were giving their all and needed support not abuse.

 

I have found (Obvioulsy I don't go anymore) since the Internet and forums (!) fans moan more and more. I used to sit in the Main Stand and it was OK, not much (oK, none)singing went on but where I was nearly everyone had been going for years and were passionate about the reds. It's the Paddock I used to find was a bad area for 'new' fans.

[Stew F]

I sat in the moan stand a bit last year for PL games, and the majority of people were terrible. All old men and hecklers, and the only time most of them made an effort to make any noise was for YNWA.

As someone who has been on the ST "list" for yonks, who goes to as many games as is humanly possible, and has sat in all areas and stands within Anfield can I just say you are talking b******s.

 

There are good fans and bad fans all over the ground, you make the kop sound like an exclusive club, open only to salt of the earth types who sing their hearts out all game

[Guest Kev]

I couldnt agree more, I think there has only ever been one player I got depressed about seeing play...Bruno Cheryou. I went to most home games for 15 years and never gave anything but my full support for every player who played for us, all I wanted was us to win. Yes I got frustarted with them but I always believed they were giving their all and needed support not abuse.

 

I have found (Obvioulsy I don't go anymore) since the Internet and forums (!) fans moan more and more. I used to sit in the Main Stand and it was OK, not much (oK, none)singing went on but where I was nearly everyone had been going for years and were passionate about the reds. It's the Paddock I used to find was a bad area for 'new' fans.

 

I save my moaning and outbursts for here.

[johngibo YPC]

As someone who has been on the ST "list" for yonks, who goes to as many games as is humanly possible, and has sat in all areas and stands within Anfield can I just say you are talking b******s.

 

There are good fans and bad fans all over the ground, you make the kop sound like an exclusive club, open only to salt of the earth types who sing their hearts out all game

 

Indeed. There was a couple of right w*****s behind me on sat

[Andy @ Allerton]

singing is just a part of it, people who just sit there and moan and never get behind the team are a disgrace. You can stand and shout and give vocal support, join in the odd song. It doesn't take much to make an atmosphere - ask Russ Abbott.

 

 

I never hear you singing..

 

How's the arm by the way, Popeye?

 

There are plenty of moaning tossers in the Kop

[Sion]

As someone who has been on the ST "list" for yonks, who goes to as many games as is humanly possible, and has sat in all areas and stands within Anfield can I just say you are talking b******s.

 

There are good fans and bad fans all over the ground, you make the kop sound like an exclusive club, open only to salt of the earth types who sing their hearts out all game

 

Did I mention the Kop? No. It can be just as bad at times, as can everywhere else. I was drawing on personal experience, that on average I found the Main stand to be very quiet, depressing and full of moaners.

[MarkD]

Having reread what I initially posted, I think there were a number of points I was trying to make;

 

a) Try and get there as near to the start as possible and then get into your seat as quickly as you can.

 

b) Remember what team you support - it might help your enjoyment. Of course people have the right to criticse, but making players scapegoats is small time. We all know Garcia is frustraing but without hime there would have been no Istanbul.

 

c) We as fans have a tradition to up-hold - songs/support/banners/humour. I feel that this is part of the fabric of our club and is at its ver heart. Each generation needs to recognise this to keep it alive. Keep us unique and special and don't resort to the cliched "You're not singing any more" or "Easy, Easy" efforts of others.

 

d) Earn your f***ing season ticket by waiting - I'm having to! - rather than turn up, moan and then say you got 4 through a contact at the club without waiting!

 

When I started to go I remember watching the crowd and listening to the songs as much as the games, and I know things/stadiums/people change, but I had hoped to make our ground special for my kids too.

[JRC]

It doesn't take much to make an atmosphere - ask Russ Abbott.

Actually, he used to sit near me in the Main Stand, and was a moaning, miserable b@stard. *

 

 

* The last bit isn't true, but the bit about him sitting in the Main Stand is.

 

Blokes behingd me are serial moaners, and it gets on my t*ts. On Saturday, it was all about how 's****" Zonal Marking is, and was last year. I felt like asking whether that was specifically during the record clean sheet run , or generally in our 2nd best defensive record in the league season, but thought that there is never any point arguing with someone who is repeating an opinion they heard on the telly from someone who doesn;t know what they are talking about, but says it with conviction.

[Bigal]

There is a bloke who sits behind who has a cardiac arrest anytime they have the ball, and the woman he sits next to just says "nice play" everythime we string 2 passes together.

 

Do my nut in.

 

Sadly its me mum and dad

[fyds]

I've been going to games since the early sixties and I can tell you, we've always had our share of this kind of numptyism

 

Although in the past there was perhaps a degree less than now thanks to Sky, anyone who imagines there was some golden time when all match going fans knew oodles about the game and just worshipped the team and the club are kidding themselves.

 

In my time, I've heard everyone from Ray Clemence, Gerry Byrne, Kevin Keegan, Beardsley, Aldo and just about everyone getting lambasted, not good enough, lazy, not fit to wear the shirt etc - Alec Lindsay and Alan Kennedy used to get this all the time - even Ian Callaghan.

 

Try and educate them or else ignore them if you can.

[Will]

There is a bloke who sits behind who has a cardiac arrest anytime they have the ball, and the woman he sits next to just says "nice play" everythime we string 2 passes together.

 

Do my nut in.

 

Sadly its me mum and dad