What did Sven ever do as manager?

[Guest Red Mist]

I can't get my head around the fact such an incompetent manager was paid so much money for doing absolutely nothing.

 

The coaching was done by McClaren, Sammy Lee and the other coaches. Sven just looked on.

Scouting of the opposition was done by Tord Grip. The tactics were planned by McClaren.

Sven spent the FA's money on watching dozens of Premiership matches every season - nice work if you can get it. Yet he goes and picks a plyer who he never watched at all, in all those hundreds of games he visited.

He never seemed to do anything while on the bench. All the note jotting and observations seemed to be made by McClaren - who also tried his best to gee the players up from the sidelines.

I imagine McClaren did most of the talking during half time too.

 

All Sven seemed to have done was pick the team. For £5M a year he just scribbles down the names of 11 players he wanted to start the game. A 2 minute job which he still managed to f*ck up.

Picking Walcott and Jenas, leaving out proven Premierhsip scoreres, banking on the fitness of 2 injured strikers, persisting with Beckham and Lampard, screwing around his best midfielder to accomodate Fat Frank, bringing on a centre-half to take a crucial penalty etc. etc.

 

Sven's tenure as manager has to be the most expensive mistake ever made by anyone. Those responsible for giving this plank the job of manager AND giving him an improved contract need to be taken out back and bludgeoned to death. A similar fate should also await any club chairman stupid enough to give the guy a job.

[John am Rhein]

So he was a really good manager all around Europe for about 20 years but then just as he got the England job he turned cr*p, somehow fluking 3 successful qualification campaigns and a 5-1 win in Munich along the way?

[BigBird]

I can't get my head around the fact such an incompetent manager was paid so much money for doing absolutely nothing.

 

The coaching was done by McClaren, Sammy Lee and the other coaches. Sven just looked on.

Scouting of the opposition was done by Tord Grip. The tactics were planned by McClaren.

Sven spent the FA's money on watching dozens of Premiership matches every season - nice work if you can get it. Yet he goes and picks a plyer who he never watched at all, in all those hundreds of games he visited.

He never seemed to do anything while on the bench. All the note jotting and observations seemed to be made by McClaren - who also tried his best to gee the players up from the sidelines.

I imagine McClaren did most of the talking during half time too.

 

All Sven seemed to have done was pick the team. For £5M a year he just scribbles down the names of 11 players he wanted to start the game. A 2 minute job which he still managed to f*ck up.

Picking Walcott and Jenas, leaving out proven Premierhsip scoreres, banking on the fitness of 2 injured strikers, persisting with Beckham and Lampard, screwing around his best midfielder to accomodate Fat Frank, bringing on a centre-half to take a crucial penalty etc. etc.

 

Sven's tenure as manager has to be the most expensive mistake ever made by anyone. Those responsible for giving this plank the job of manager AND giving him an improved contract need to be taken out back and bludgeoned to death. A similar fate should also await any club chairman stupid enough to give the guy a job.

 

As Chris Waddle so memorably put it on R5, after Portugal?s magnificent and thoroughly deserved triumph?

 

?This England squad is over rated. It may be the best squad we have had for a long time but there are only 5 or 6 really world class players in it. To compete with the best we need another 4 or 5 top players?.

 

Waddles opinion is quite clearly an undisputable truth.

Therefore Sven must be admired for coaching a mob of no-hopers to the quarter finals of three major tournaments.

 

The man deserves a knighthood and the eternal gratitude of an undeserving public.

 

Bless him.

[beejay]

So he was a really good manager all around Europe for about 20 years but then just as he got the England job he turned cr*p, somehow fluking 3 successful qualification campaigns and a 5-1 win in Munich along the way?

 

Basically..... yeah

 

How could he not get England into 3 major tournaments with the squad of players at his disposal

 

At Lazio was given millions upon millions to win a single championship

 

done anything else has he...

[John am Rhein]

Basically..... yeah

 

How could he not get England into 3 major tournaments with the squad of players at his disposal

 

At Lazio was given millions upon millions to win a single championship

 

done anything else has he...

 

More than any other England manager still living.

 

And he had a better record as England manager than them as well.

 

The players are simply not as good as seems to have become the universally accepted truth.

 

England seem essentially to have dragged Eriksson down to (almost) their level.

[Guest Assassin]

He picked a player for the Worlds biggest football competition having never seen him play a competitive game of football............pure genius, now mere mortal manager could do that

[Lee W]

So he was a really good manager all around Europe for about 20 years but then just as he got the England job he turned cr*p, somehow fluking 3 successful qualification campaigns and a 5-1 win in Munich along the way?

 

That win was nearly 5 years ago and the only other memorable performance I can remember against a top side is defeating Argentina in 2002. Since then he has devalued the England cap and proved he is one of the most inept frauds in International football management. He had 4 years to prepare a squad for the World Cup and was still messing around with systems and personnel during the tournament. Utterly devoid of all the basic fundamentals a manager needs to succeed.....

[Logic]

Basically..... yeah

 

How could he not get England into 3 major tournaments with the squad of players at his disposal

 

At Lazio was given millions upon millions to win a single championship

 

done anything else has he...

I'm no SGE fan but he won the UEFA cup with IFK Göteborg.

 

He then went to Benfica were he won the league and as the runner up in the UEFA cup and in his second time there as the runners up in the EC (lost against Milan IIRC).

 

He also won the CWC with Lazio IIRC.

 

That's a pretty good record.

 

But it seems he has lost it lately. I'll give you that.

[Stevie H]

Basically..... yeah

 

How could he not get England into 3 major tournaments with the squad of players at his disposal

 

At Lazio was given millions upon millions to win a single championship

 

done anything else has he...

did well enough with gothenburg, benfica and sampdoria without the silly budgets, yeah.

[Des]

 

Sven spent the FA's money on watching dozens of Premiership matches every season

 

You don't think he paid for that, do you?

[Earl Hafler]

More than any other England manager still living.

 

And he had a better record as England manager than them as well.

 

The players are simply not as good as seems to have become the universally accepted truth.

 

England seem essentially to have dragged Eriksson down to (almost) their level.

 

My f***ing a***. Had Sir Bobby in his 50's / 60's had that squad we would have played better football and possibly won.

 

Sven has failed spectacularly. £5m a year to do a job Curbishley could have done for £1m or less.

 

Walcott ? Does Spit The Dog get paid £5m per year for being a puppet ?

 

4-5-1 with Rooney upfront and the inability to drop the pitiful Lampard.

Aye. Sven's the daddy.

[Hassony]

My f***ing a***. Had Sir Bobby in his 50's / 60's had that squad we would have played better football and possibly won.

 

Sven has failed spectacularly. £5m a year to do a job Curbishley could have done for £1m or less.

 

Walcott ? Does Spit The Dog get paid £5m per year for being a puppet ?

 

4-5-1 with Rooney upfront and the inability to drop the pitiful Lampard.

Aye. Sven's the daddy.

if Owen didn't get injured there was no way sven would have played 4-5-1, but its easier to drop crouch, even though he was one of the best english players in the first round

[Earl Hafler]

if Owen didn't get injured there was no way sven would have played 4-5-1, but its easier to drop crouch, even though he was one of the best english players in the first round

 

No, he should have dropped Lampard and Beckham who were in very poor form and seemingly had other things on their mind. Asking for Beckham to be dropped would have been fat to much so...

 

Gerrard / Lennon / Beckham---Hargreaves---Carrick / Gerrard---Cole

-----------------------------Rooney-----------------------------

-----------------------------Crouch------------------------------

 

Sven was obsessing about the need for 5 in midfield and some steel in there ( Gerrard, Hargreaves ) but play Gerrard on the wing and you have Gerrard, Cole and Rooney who all have the ability to drop back but also get into the box. Plus, Gerrard could have mopped up Figo or Ronaldo.

If Beckham has to play then drop Lampard and play Rooney in his rightful position. Play the two as he did and you have one player out of position and the other out of form.

Basic, if you ask me.

 

Rooney did well enough as a lone striker but it's like asking Gerrard to play left mid. He can do it but it's not going to get the best out of him or the team.

 

Against an understrength Portugal, with several other players on yellow cards, why did Sven play so defensively ?

4-4-2, get at them and then drop back if we go one or two up.

Edited July 4, 2006 by Big Stuff

[Lee W]

I really think Eriksson could put Expresso in a Krupps machine and end up with orange juice.

[Archangel]

Oh s***

 

Why bother he's gone now

 

and we are left with mclaren

 

wup dee do

Edited July 4, 2006 by Splint

[Guz]

Sven was quite clever in that he picked the team that the media would pick and therefore left little room for the media to attack him.

 

Unfortunately the media do not pick teams that win trophies.

 

The exceptions being Heskey, Crouch and Hargreaves. I dont buy into anyreal theories about his management except the one that says he was s**** for england.

 

6 years and how many performances of worth did England put in? Ones that made it look as if they could comptete with the top sides in the world? Only one comes to my mind.