Guest scratch Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Fairly safe bet Fowler's not sorry he's leaving He's not the only one. Sven is touted as a tactical genius, but in my mind he has a Plan A. And that's it. If we go behind, he has no clue how to turn it round, other than to leave the players to it and hope for the best. Walcott? Fowler himself would have been a better option! - bout sums up our world cup chances with Sven at the helm.
Guest Red Mist Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Well said, Robbie. Sven is clueless and he is compromising our best player (Stevie) just to accommodate that fat turd from Chelsea. It should the other way around. Other players should be shafted to suit Stevie's game. Sven is an idiot and has us playing some awful football despite the decent players we have. Can't wait for the silly f*cker to finally f*ck off. It's just a pity we'll have his equally clueless apprentice in charge. A shame that England's golden generation are led by such useless coaches who will never help fulfil the players' potential.
RaoulD Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 What's even more frightening is that it seemed the "tactical" decisions came from McClaren as much as Sven. I not sure there is even a Plan A. It seems to me that the players just decide for themselves where to play which is why we see Gerrard having to play a holding role because Lampard is either incapable or simply won't sit back and defend. I thought it was pretty obvious from the Man U game at Anfield last season that Crouch cannot operate as a lone striker because he will just get isolated and he needs the support of either a second striker or players running on from midfield. Sven's masterplan against Paraguay? Play Crouch as the lone striker! I think the problem is that Sven's idea of a team is to pick the best 11 players he can think of without any thought being given as to how the team as a whole should function. On paper a midfield of Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard and Cole looks to be the best but in reality it suppresses Gerrard's ability to attack since he is the only one of the four who can tackle and perform the defensive duties to an acceptable standard at this level. I actually think that England would be better with a specialist defensive midfielder in place of Lampard thus enabling Gerrard to play in the advanced fulcrum role where he is so lethal.
Ostrich Man Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 I've nothing personal against Eriksson - despite playing under him for a few years, I barely know him - these are just concerns I know many fans have aye right....nothing personal.
Barnes' left foot Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 As someone said in another thread (I think it was Mike), Sven is probably the biggest conman in football at the moment. 4M a year!!! Ridiculous.
Guest Jack Bauer Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Robbie is just bitter. Just kidding, God is always right.
Jimi Rojo Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 I've nothing personal against Eriksson - despite playing under him for a few years, I barely know him - these are just concerns I know many fans haveaye right....nothing personal. Sven is an idiot - that's clear to the entire world. Why then do you come on here and criticise Robbie?? Please go away.
johngibo YPC Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 He's not the only one. Sven is touted as a tactical genius, but in my mind he has a Plan A. And that's it. If we go behind, he has no clue how to turn it round, other than to leave the players to it and hope for the best. Walcott? Fowler himself would have been a better option! - bout sums up our world cup chances with Sven at the helm. By who????
Paul Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Agree with most of that except that England were not in control when he took Owen off. They had started the second half very sluggish and the initiative had already been surrendered.
Hugh Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 An outsider would say he's bitter but f*** that, Robbie is God, and the gospel does not lie.
Rimbeux Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 But he can't have it both ways. Like most of the critics, they bang on about the super six, and how good they are, but then complain about balance, and Gerrard in the holding role, but offer no solution. Somebody has to sit it out
Guest 7777 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) Until recently I always said Sven's competitive record stands up to anyones and it did but Robbie is 100% spot on there. The man is clueless, every point Fowler has made lately, albeit from a biased perspective about Carra, the Gerrard being too defensive to dragging MO off after 55 minutes proves Sven is complete f***wit But he can't have it both ways. Like most of the critics, they bang on about the super six, and how good they are, but then complain about balance, and Gerrard in the holding role, but offer no solution. Somebody has to sit it out Lampard all day long Stevie is that good, he is better than any defensive midfielder in the squad and thats his downfall and why Lampard will always get the attacking role, I know publicly both of them say one pushes the other stays but do they f***, Gerrard carries Frank Edited June 14, 2006 by 7777
Rimbeux Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Lampard all day long Stevie is that good, he is better than any defensive midfielder in the squad and thats his downfall and why Lampard will always get the attacking role, I know publicly both of them say one pushes the other stays but do they f***, Gerrard carries Frank If he plays Lampard, he needs two others in central midfield, and needs to set up as the Czechs are without Baros, with one up, if he wants two up, he has to let Lampard go, as he cannot play in a two man, as his club have worked out
Guest 7777 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Thats what I said I think Lampard should sit it out
surf Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Sounds like he's just giving the Liverpool players a boost to me, which is fair enough.
Gunga Din Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 It's bulls***, if England wins the WC Sven deserves credit. England has hardly got a that impressive squad when you benchmark against the other top sides i.e. Brazil, Argentina. If England happens to win, which I doubt, Sven certainely played a decisive part. What are his stats as England manager anyways. i.e. won vs loss es ratio? When you look at the results, there is little substance for the critisim, especially considering the fact that England last won something 40 years ago. i dunno, i think Englands overall squad is as good as anyones. i think Robbie has a fair point, especially about there be no plan B, which has been glaringly obvious with England for the past few years. if Rooney isnt playing, they tend to play within themselves, and there are big gaps, particularly between the midfield and strikers, leaving them pumping long balls and giving away the ball cheaply
Guest Cally77 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) i dunno, i think Englands overall squad is as good as anyones Oooh, dunno about that. They're struggling without Rooney as it is, just one player. Spain, Brazil or Argentina can call on a number of top class replacements, we've got Walcott. Edited June 14, 2006 by Cally77
Guest Kev Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 England's squad is poor, some great players but too many struggling with injury and fitness.
Gunga Din Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Oooh, dunno about that. They're struggling without Rooney as it is, just one player. Spain, Brazil or Argentina can call on a number of top class replacements, we've got Walcott. ok then, take Englands current squad, and stick Rafa in as manager? do you think England have a better chance. or even Ferguson or Wenger. cos i'd say yes. all the squads have weaknesses, but i think England have a first 11 who could have the beating of anyone. but i think Sven is the one man wh will hold them back, because tactically, he hasnt got it
Guest Cally77 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 (edited) IF, they can get to the QF with Rooney and Owen returning to some kind of fitness and with no other injures to any of the main players, then they have a chance. It's all about momentum and hitting form in the knockout stages, but there's too many doubts at the minute, especially about the manager - he looks as clueless as ever. Edited June 14, 2006 by Cally77
Ostrich Man Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 Sven is an idiot - that's clear to the entire world. Why then do you come on here and criticise Robbie?? Please go away. no.
Maldini Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 When Sven took over he actually had an idea in his head of what he wanted the team to play like. People may have disagreed with his decisions, but at least you knew they were a part of a plan. In the intervening years he seems to have been battered into submission by the media, he's so afraid to go against the grain it's almost as if the team is being picked by referenda. I can't understand how he has the team playing, what are his tactics? There is no pattern to the team's play. It seems as if the players are being left to their own devices and not being given instructions.
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