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These are the 'best' odds from here: http://www.oddschecker.com/betting/mode/f/...0218x/sid/10062

 

What are views on who's over/under-valued?

 

Brazil 14/5

England 8

Germany 8.1/1

Argentina 9

Italy 10

France 14

Holland 14.8/1

Spain 16.3/1

Portugal 25

Czech Rep 40

Sweden 45

Mexico 50

Ukraine 74

Croatia 80

USA 100

Serbia and Montenegro 100

Ivory Coast 100

Poland 125

Australia 149

Switzerland 150

Paraguay 200

South Korea 250

Japan 300

Ghana 300

Tunisia 400

Ecuador 400

Togo 750

Iran 750

Costa Rica 750

Angola 750

Saudi Arabia 1000

Trinidad and Tobago 1500

 

Holland and Sweden are undervalued I reckon - possibly Czechs too - they're past their peak but they shouldn't be at 40-1.

 

Germany are way overvalued and I'd say France should be lower in the list than that. As should England actually.

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Undervalued: Mexico, South Korea, Portugal, Tunisia.

 

Overvalued: Argentina, Brazil, Ukraine, Paraguay.

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Undervalued: Mexico, South Korea, Portugal, Tunisia.

 

Overvalued: Argentina, Brazil, Ukraine, Paraguay.

 

Englands as second favourites aren't overvalued?

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I think France are tremendous value at 14-1, so they have a really really tough run to the final, so what so does everyone. Them or Brazil will win it for me so I'd back France.

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I don't care, remember the Czech's in 2000, won 19 in a row out in the group stages, didn't Brazil qualify in 4th place in S America for 2002.

 

France have Henry, Zidane, Trezeguet, Pires, Makalele, Vieira and either Ribery or Wiltord as a front 6. I doubt any other team bar Brazil can match that. In Thuram and Gallas they have two of the best defenders in World football.

 

THey may have been rubbish in qualifying but 14-1 is stupid odds.

 

Oh, and England are massively underpriced at 8-1.

 

England are underpriced at 8-1???? They should be favourites?

 

Brazil had a bad qualifying tournament but they then changed their manager and got big players back in time for the World Cup - Ronaldo for example.

 

France have the same manager and all the same players they've had since the latter part of the qualifying campaign. Pires isn't in the squad and Zidane and Vieira are past their best. Will be surprised if they get to the semi-finals, not to mind winning the whole thing.

Guest Aussie_Red
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If I had a logical bet on a final it would have to be Brazil vs Germany with Brazil winning, as long as they contain any sneaky german comeback attempts. You just have to look at the previous finals, and the fact that Germany are hosting it makes it seem like a reasonably likely outcome.

 

I generally don't think England, Argentina, France, Holland, Spain and Portugal will be good enough to go all the way. Most of them will once again fail live up to their hype. The likes of England, Holland, Spain and Portugal rarely do. I predict probably one or two of them will be in the semi-finals. Here are my undervalued picks:

 

Czech Rep 40 - Worth a look at betting

Sweden 45 - Worth a look at betting

Mexico 50 - Worth a look at betting

Croatia 80

USA 100

Ivory Coast 100

Australia 149 - Ivory Coast or Aust. could be the token 'surprise team' of this tournament.

 

At least one of those undervalued teams should have a very good chance of being in the final four. I'm too buggered to research who plays who, but I'm sure one of those teams will have an easy run after the group stages.

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France have the same manager and all the same players they've had since the latter part of the qualifying campaign. Pires isn't in the squad and Zidane and Vieira are past their best. Will be surprised if they get to the semi-finals, not to mind winning the whole thing.

 

same here. malouda looks likely to start on the left for them as it goes, but they're not the side they were defensively. they've got problems in the camp too, coupet stormed out in protest at barthez being allowed to get off training duties by allegedly feigning injury. barthez is their weakest link, they won't win it with that clown involved.

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same here. malouda looks likely to start on the left for them as it goes, but they're not the side they were defensively. they've got problems in the camp too, coupet stormed out in protest at barthez being allowed to get off training duties by allegedly feigning injury. barthez is their weakest link, they won't win it with that clown involved.

 

I think that we all know that they're way past their best for a few tournaments to come. They had that massive boom with all of those great talents but it's just not working any more. They've aged, their defence is not as strong as before and they have become fairly predictable. My strongest prediction for the last cup was that France would fail. They are not going to get in the finals, however the team will certainly be out to prove something with nothing to lose, so they will probably be in the final eight.

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