Good way to eradicate divers

[Guest Red Mist]

The best way to eradicate divers and play acting sh*tbags is for high profile players and managers to publicly lambaste the cheats. Rafa and Pepe did it regarding the diving Dutchman Robben and he's now a marked man by referees.

Next season the club needs to draw up a hit list of players our players and manager will publicly criticise (whether we've played them or not), and it will be ferocious criticism that will be featured in every newspaper and mentioned on Sky, MOTD etc.

 

This will help generate awareness of certain players and their cheating tendencies and referees will be more cautious when an incident involves the accused player(s).

In particular we need our captain and superstar Stevie G to start picking on certain players. The voice of England's finest will carry much weight so that fella we have on here who's mates with Stevie, advise him to start using the media to smear the cheats.

This will help us of course, and improve the standard of English football too.

[growler]

How about an 'award' for Diver of the week?

 

Seriously though, until the FA decide to do half time and post game bookings and cards, there will always be divers. That way, if a player dives and it is missed, he will still be punished. a 5 match ban and 4 weeks salary fine to go to charity would do the trick.

[Guest Red Mist]

FA will never do anything about it. Their hands are tied by FIFA who refuse any reasonable request to help combat dives and cheats, thanks to Blatter's blind faith in refs and hatred of technology.

That is why it's up to the honest players and managers to publicly out the cheating scumbags. Once the media and the fans get on their back, the cheats will soon change their ways. Or be driven out of English football. Either way, it'll be good for the game.

[Maldini]

The problem is there's a grey area. Sometimes when you're running at full pelt the slightest knock can send you flying. The slightest knock won't always get caught on cameras.

 

Remember that incident in the World Cup a few years back, think Norway were playing Brazil (could be completely wrong on the teams), a peno was given and everyone said the player dived. 4 or 5 different angles showed no contact and the player was castigated in the media.

 

Then a few days later another angle pops up from a camera one of the stations had positioned behind the goal which showed the defender dragging the player down by the shirt.

 

It'd be impossible to enforce properly, if you're going to punish just blatant dives and not those which are ambiguous then all you're doing is encouraging players to become better at diving.

[Woodsyla]

My way of doing it would be to utilise the existing yellow card banning system. After the game the ref would watch the game and mark down EVERY instance that he considers a dive. All those players would then receive a retrospective yellow card. If a player therefore dives in 5 successive games he will get a 1 match ban, if you have a team full of cheats (cough Chelsea) then you could well lose 4 or 5 players at the same time.

 

That IMO would at least reduce the blatent diving.

 

P.S. Even if the ref got it wrong on the day and gave a penalty he can book the player after the fact if he felt he's been hoodwinked.

[JayKay]

Bit of a shocker this, Wenger actually saw foul play from arsenal player...

 

Wenger fumes at Eboue

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has blasted Emmanuel Eboue for diving in the UEFA Champions League defeat to Barcelona.

 

Eboue appeared to dive to win the free kick from which Sol Campbell scored to give Arsenal the lead in Paris.

 

Barcelona were unhappy with the award of the free kick and Wenger has admitted Eboue cheated to win the free kick.

 

Wenger was unhappy with the young full back and insists he will not stand for any cheating from any of his players.

 

"It is clear there was no foul. I condemn and regret the attitude of Eboue," Wenger told The People.

 

"I have always risen up against cheating.

 

"Eboue cheated by simulating the foul. I detest simulation."

 

 

 

 

 

story

[Ostrich Man]

he wouldnt have said diddly if Henry hadnt slabbered bout Barcelona diving....they wouldnt have been shown up as hypocrites......all teams have their divers....but as RedMist says something should be done.

 

the world cup should be fun.

 

 

In particular we need our captain and superstar Stevie G to start picking on certain players. The voice of England's finest will carry much weight so that fella we have on here who's mates with Stevie, advise him to start using the media to smear the cheats.

 

I assume you mean starting with the divers at Liverpool? Cant really see him coming out and saying to the papers "luis is a diving git"

[Guest Cardie]

Put together a supporter led panel who judge all the dives each week, the one judged to be worse get's sacrificed in the centre circle at half time the following game.

[John am Rhein]

Are we going to eliminate the kickers, gougers, head-bangers, toe-stampers, elbow-to-the-jaw-ers, etc. as well?

[Knox_Harrington]

Are we going to eliminate the kickers, gougers, head-bangers, toe-stampers, elbow-to-the-jaw-ers, etc. as well?

No because diving to gain an advantage is disgusting to right thinking member of the free world.

[The Hitman]

Would Stevie therefore start picking on himself? A spot of self-flaggelation perhaps?

[Ostrich Man]

another way to eradicate it would be to allow players to crowd around the diver and spit on him.....maybe even a swift boot to the head a la shearer.

 

harsh but fair.

[John am Rhein]

No because diving to gain an advantage is disgusting to right thinking member of the free world.

 

But that's exactly why it's condoned by the righteous.

[Extraordinary Swindle]

Remember that incident in the World Cup a few years back, think Norway were playing Brazil (could be completely wrong on the teams), a peno was given and everyone said the player dived. 4 or 5 different angles showed no contact and the player was castigated in the media.

You're right - It was one of the group games in France '98. I think it was Junior Baiano who pulled Tore Andre Flo down in the last minute of the game. In the initial replay it showed Baiano standing in front of Flo the two of them jumping for a header and Flo appeared to push Baiano down - Free kick for Brazil but the referee called a penalty. Norway scored the penalty and won the game 2-1. The controversy arose because Norway beat Morocco to second place in the group with the win, the referee was American and the xenophobic press were having a go. A couple of days later there was an obscure camera angle of the incident which showed Baiano had a hand behind his back holding Flo and as Flo jumped Baiano 'fell' pulling Flo down on top of him. The referee was vindicated in his decision and in an interview revealed that he had seen the player perform the same foul and get away with it at least twice while watching games on tv before the World Cup.

[drdooom]

If you dive you get 5 to the noggin'

 

That will stamp out diving, sooner or later.

[Knox_Harrington]

If you dive you get 5 to the noggin'

 

That will stamp out diving, sooner or later.

Bet you some of these so called men would go down screaming after one in the noggin.

[drdooom]

Bet you some of these so called men would go down screaming after one in the noggin.

 

Thing is with divers, you never know if they're really hurt or not. That's why you need 5 to make sure.

[Stevie H]

landmines. they'd stay on their f***ing feet then.

[The Hitman]

landmines. they'd stay on their f***ing feet then.

They wouldn't have any feet to stand on. Or legs for that matter.

[stressederic]

Are we going to eliminate the kickers, gougers, head-bangers, toe-stampers, elbow-to-the-jaw-ers, etc. as well?

 

No need, Shearer's retired.

[Euphrates]

No need, Shearer's retired.

 

and Bergkamp!