Guest Kev Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Why appoint a referee to the most prestigious and biggest European competition to a referee who has been judged not good enough to referee in the World Cup this summer ? He was on the shortlist but never made the final cut.
Falconhoof Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Why play a goalkeeper who leaves the referee with no choice but to send him off ?
George Costanza Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Kev said: Why appoint a referee to the most prestigious and biggest European competition to a referee who has been judged not good enough to referee in the World Cup this summer ? He was on the shortlist but never made the final cut. Crap ref but didn't do either team any favours so can't say any bias. Spoilt the game with the Lehman sending off.
Guest Kev Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Cardinal Fang said: Why play a goalkeeper who leaves the referee with no choice but to send him off ? One decision he got right. In the 90 minutes he was awful.
pipnasty Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 coltmanaman said: Crap ref but didn't do either team any favours so can't say any bias. Spoilt the game with the Lehman sending off. I think it did spoil the game but at the same time it was also the correct decision to make. I also believe that the ref was in his rights to play the advantage, allow the goal and then send Lehmann off too. The ref was pretty poor throughout.
chrisbonnie Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 he was shockingly poor, but for both sides, not just 1
Tones Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 lehman had to go, he had no choice with that. Goal should have stood, but does anyone know if he blew his whistle before Guily finished it?
stressederic Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 t1971 said: lehman had to go, he had no choice with that. Goal should have stood, but does anyone know if he blew his whistle before Guily finished it? Lehman said when interviewed he heard the Ref blow as soon as he brought Eto'o down. The referee was shockingly bad tonight, it wasn't even biased in any direction, he was just totally woeful.
Gomez Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 coltmanaman said: Crap ref but didn't do either team any favours so can't say any bias. Spoilt the game with the Lehman sending off. How did the ref spoil the game, it was a text book sending off, he had not choice. Awarding the goal and sending him off would have spoilt the game as a spectacle more, and it still would have been within the law.
IgPig Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Nothing would have been said about the ref had it gone the other way, Despite Andy Gray's denials.
Guest roger Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 I thought the ref was 'poor'. I would certainly subscribe to having Europe's top 'Officials' as the set for the CL final. People generally agree on the best refs and that Norwegian wouldn't trip off the tongue. Just get a decent set of non controversial people. That linesman pic has a danger of tainting the whole refereeing set tonight. That bloke should never have been courting low class publicity at all.
Rushian Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 He made one serious mistake - Arsenal should have been down to 9 men when Eboue dived for the freekick which led to Arsenal's goal
CarraLegend Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Rushian said: He made one serious mistake - Arsenal should have been down to 9 men when Eboue dived for the freekick which led to Arsenal's goal Aye, how he stayed on the pitch i'll never know, he also should of been booked again for his foul on Ronaldinho but got away with it. He's a dirty little t***.
Ostrich Man Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 Rushian said: He made one serious mistake - Arsenal should have been down to 9 men when Eboue dived for the freekick which led to Arsenal's goalshouldve got sent of for his studs into the thighs of van bronckhurst
Kenny_ Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 He didn't have the best of games tonight but overall he's quite a good ref IMO. Surprised he's not going to the WC.
RP Posted May 17, 2006 Posted May 17, 2006 anny road said: total overreaction about the ref At f***ing last, some sense. And from such an unlikely source.
Nebraska Red Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 I thought the ref did a decent job. Maybe he let a few things go, but he made some allowances for the cr@ppy weather. He was dead right for the red card if he blew his whistle. His linesman should have told him about the dive by Eboue. He was not great, but he was not awful.
Sir Tokyo Sexwale Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 apart from Kev - how many people in this thread have ever reffed a game to any competent level?
Lee W Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) By the laws of advantage and 'spirit' of the game Barca's goal should've stood and Lehmann received a yellow at worst. That was the referee's worst mistake and should've been dealt with in the same manner as the referee letting Cech stay on after he fouled Baros for Garcia's goal in the semi-final. Maybe Eboue should've walked, but if that should've been the case what was Oleguer still doing on the pitch after 60 minutes - continuous, cynical fouling and ironically when deserved booking did happen it was for about the only tackle he made where he won the ball !! Agree with Henry aswell, he got no protection from the referee and Marquez at least should've been on a yellow by half-time for going through the back of him. The final insult to Henry was when he also got booked for winning the ball. If any of that lot had happened against us we'd have been spitting blood and this place would be in meltdown. Sorry, but the referee was sh*te and not befitting of a game of that importance and prestige. Edited May 18, 2006 by Lee W
12twelve Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 Does anyone hold any refereeing qualifications? I'd love to hear what the 'correct' decision for Lehmann should be had the ref decided to let play go on. Yellow or Red?
Koogan Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) Just before the Eboue incident, Ashley Cole also performed some unsportsmanlike diving antics. I bet Wenger muttered "A mental note: I didn't see that, I didn't see that, I didn't that..." to himself. Edited May 18, 2006 by Koogan
Figaro Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 Rushian said: He made one serious mistake - Arsenal should have been down to 9 men when Eboue dived for the freekick which led to Arsenal's goal Totally agree with you. There was a lot of hassle about that at half time. Without a doubt the ref was one of the worst I've ever seen in a European Cup Final
Stew F Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 Lee W said: By the laws of advantage and 'spirit' of the game Barca's goal should've stood and Lehmann received a yellow at worst. That was the referee's worst mistake and should've been dealt with in the same manner as the referee letting Cech stay on after he fouled Baros for Garcia's goal in the semi-final. Maybe Eboue should've walked, but if that should've been the case what was Oleguer still doing on the pitch after 60 minutes - continuous, cynical fouling and ironically when deserved booking did happen it was for about the only tackle he made where he won the ball !! Agree with Henry aswell, he got no protection from the referee and Marquez at least should've been on a yellow by half-time for going through the back of him. The final insult to Henry was when he also got booked for winning the ball. If any of that lot had happened against us we'd have been spitting blood and this place would be in meltdown. Sorry, but the referee was sh*te and not befitting of a game of that importance and prestige. Well said that man - biggest club game of the season ruined by what seemed a simple call
Liverbobs Posted May 18, 2006 Posted May 18, 2006 12twelve said: Does anyone hold any refereeing qualifications? I'd love to hear what the 'correct' decision for Lehmann should be had the ref decided to let play go on. Yellow or Red? Lehmann was sent off for deliberatly denying a goalscoring opportunity, if the ref had played advantage and allowed the goal then Lehamnn obviously wouldn't've denied a goal scoring opportunity as a goal was scored and should have got a yellow card at worst, the ref could have done either, but remember he only had a split second to make his mind up and would have been slaughtered no matter what his decision would have been.
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