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Wtf? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/nadhim-zahawi-football-hooligan-liverpool-b2623543.html

My juve season ticket holding mate's concise view here in Italy: He's still quick, surprisingly powerful, suited to England, tactically a disaster... He then asked for comment on Sancho as the potential replacement, not sure what to say! But as backup to Mo for that money, it's pretty decent opportunism. Just a shame about all the things we actually needed!

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Exactly, the whole setup is designed to protect refs not improve decisions. And then it's horrifically applied on top without even basic process (or conflict management but that's separate). But the whole idea is misconceived.

This is exactly where I'm at. All that plus the massive 0-0 in the corner of the screen he's looking at. Just not a credible explanation at all

Bet he'll be sent after 85+ to "even things up"... To have 2 straight weeks where the red comes out that quickly for something you see unpunished 20 times a game is so fishy it's untrue. And you can't see the fa rescinding 2 straight...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/liverpool-to-back-juergen-klopp-for-summer-rebuild-ssnlx57f3 Haha

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Sorry not aimed at you specifically Swipe! My only real point is his not being around at this stage doesn't mean being behind schedule or indicate anything, although tbh I don't think there is that clear a schedule for tendon ruptures vs more common athlete knee injuries. The fact that he's such a strong lad could actually have helped contribute, there was speculation that was part of the reason Ronaldo's went.

Having had the same injury last year it is I think in the balance but absolutely nothing can be read into Joe's absence from rehab centre up to now. Patellar tendon repair whoever you are has to be left in a locked brace for 5-6 weeks to heal with only gradual controlled non weight bearing movement, it's nothing like an ACL where the rehab starts immediately. Way too early to tell, mine was a f***er and most of two years and two ops later I doubt I'll ever run again but at his age it's def possible. But give the guy a chance!

If it's a rupture yes, if it's a tear, then it could be quite minor and back in 3-4 months good as new or could be nearly as bad (he was out for nearly 2 years and never anywhere near the same) depending on the severity of the tear. We really don't know much at this point I think... But if its a bad tendon injury then whether or not the ligaments were also damaged is kind of irrelevant from a sporting recovery sense as I understand it, although might affect how mobile he is in his later years! All based on my own experience / what docs have told me, and no medical training whatsoever, so take with many pinches of salt...

Haha, actually it's usually done when under extreme force from the muscle itself (jumping or landing) rather than impact, which is why the muscle contraction then pulls the kneecap way out of place. Mine was an exception as it was knee to knee contact in midair but e.g. Ronaldo's at Inter or that Brazilian goalie that did it last year just taking a goalkick there was no contact at all. Safeguarding plan dounds sensible - if I ever recover i'm never jumping off a wall or anything like it ever again! Update on Joe makes it sound like it may well be that tendon (or if the quads tendon it's largely the same situation, but a tear rather than a full rupture - which could be nearly as bad or nothing like it, really depends...

Me neither(!), but I did train every day and miss it massively as the only thing to help manage mental health etc. Cycling is my only saviour as it doesn't seem to bother it too much so long as i don't push too hard. Not that bothered about running in itself, just the ability to do other sports on spec - although def not going back to basketball which caused it in the first place, no way i'm risking doing all of this again... Only 6 weeks post 2nd op now (they had to go back in to take sutures out which were screwing up the opposite quads tendon), will be a while before I know if it's helped. 10 years - that's not encouraging, outside of running how did it heal up?!?!