Redray

He's not really that bothered, despite what he says. Probably prefers it TBH.

He got it wrong. He said 5-1

Fellani's new hair do? I thought that was last week?

Why watch it mate? Probably the most nauseating programme on the box.

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Agreed, But would add that Zamora should also have walked for that.

..and we wait to see what action the FA take over the Dowd remark?!

huge dividends. look at this s**** from Ferguson when speaking to sky (yes he did today) "Scholes' dismissal for the penalty had seemed a fair call by the referee, but Ferguson has cast doubt over the decision by noting that the midfielder was little more than a yard from the header when it was made by Bobby Zamora. "It's close to him so he could have easily not given it, but it's Phil Dowd so what do you expect?" Ferguson remarked. "The second one I have to say, did he (Rooney) throw the ball at the referee? The ball was thrown direct to where the free-kick was taken and did it hit the referee? No, the ball didn't hit the referee. "Was it thrown in anger? Yes, because he wanted the game hurried up, he threw with pace to get the game going."

Hmm. All sounds a bit dubious to me. Reading between the lines, I think he's off.

Bah!

For the last six seasons, the team that has knocked out Real Madrid have never gone on to lift the trophy. Also, that side has always been knocked out by the eventual champions! http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/fourfourtwovi...ons-league.aspx

Forget, Sky, Setanta News Channel on Tuesday night was a sight to behold. The k****ead presenter read out a stream of emails from LFC ‘fans’ from places like Bromley saying how much they hated Rafa and wanted him out. They must have read out about 20, not one positive about the club. The tool watching the game was fat boy Graham Roberts. He said the fans were booing at half time and Rafa would be out by next Wednesday after Real (probably) beat us. Even after the match he said we were s***. Sky Sports love us in comparison.

The point, in all seriousness, is that were it not for the first goal, courtesy of Riera, Ngog may not have had the confidence to lay on the second. Maybe not fact but an arguable theory.

Is fact.

2 without the 1 No 1 but the 2 how?

How do you get to 2 without getting 1 first?

Still a bitter blue Andy Gray: My Everton spell meant so much "My time at Everton was, without doubt, the most successful, and probably the happiest couple of years that I've had. "We had a brilliant couple of years, brilliant team-mates, fabulous friends, great togetherness and a huge desire to succeed, so if you put all that together we did okay!" When he arrived at Everton the Blues were five places off the foot off the First Division, goals were in desperately short supply and Howard Kendall's swoop for a supposedly burned out striker with dodgy knees was seen as the act of a desperate man. But the Scottish gladiator enjoyed a glorious Indian summer at Everton, his boldness and hunger for the ball enlivening team-mates on the pitch, and his effervescent energy and charisma off it imbuing his team-mates with a winning confidence. He won League, FA Cup and European Cup Winners Cup medals – scoring in the finals of the FA Cup and the European trophy, and asked about the never to be forgotten Bayern Munich semi-final he said: "It was one of those special nights that come along very rarely in football. "If I go to my grave with one game in my mind, and only one I can take with me, then it would definitely be that one."

Paul Stewart

He’s one of us. If he wasn’t he would have been long gone by now. Wart’s and all, he is still the man. Back him and he will return the glory days, if he is allowed to. When you sing his name sing it so loudly so the charlatans and shysters have no doubt where we stand. The external forces would want to weaken his support. Ignore these no marks that try to break the resolve, by undermining his position through spreading doubts that encourage polls like this. They seek to stop us getting back to where we belong. Don’t be helping them. We are Liverpool football club. Show him solidarity and support and he will reward. That is all he is trying to do.

Are you suggesting the two issues might be linked?

The real question is how will this affect the performance tonight. s***

So bets have been suspended, that's all. ....as they were on Moyes leaving Everton some time back.

Yeah. This is precisely the point that Tomkins makes well; http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...090223-1321.htm The fact that expectations were raised beyond reasonable attainment speaks volumes. This is the point being lost.

Not ideal at this stage, with them wanting to kick lumps out of us.

Each point dropped is going to be painful. It will be a painful season, not necessarily an unsuccessful one.