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Really really really didn't. I'm happy for Bellamy and Gonzalez, but the performance will need work. It's all very well to have a winger who hugs the touchline, but if there's nobody in the box for him to aim for, it's sort of pointless staying out there.

1-0 Anderson from Riise's cross

Alex Ferguson's son plays in midfield for Wrexham

Mine works just fine and I've only got 512K...

same here

I might be splitting hairs but "Rafael Benitez today officially unveiled Craig Bellamy and Mark Gonzalez as Liverpool players at Melwood" sounds like it's already happened.

They must have done. An unveiling equals a press conference, right?

Can't remember when, and anyway, looks like he didn't today: report from .tv

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With a proposed total cost of £190m I fail to understand how missing out on a grant of £9m would spell the almost certain end of our stadium plans.

This site says 5.30pm local time. It will also have ticketing info eventually (how's your German?). I also found a picture of the "stadium" here - looks tiny as was to be expected. Turning up on the day without a ticket does not look like an option...

Hate the idea of him doing a job against us...

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Rennes do have some money available, they just sold Alexander Frei (Swiss forward) to Borussia Dortmund. I've seen ?6m mentioned, that would be £4m unless the exchange rates have changed drastically since the last time I checked...

Dominic Fifield should've read AS or this forum before he wrote this then: Guardian story (can't be bothered pasting the whole thing - basically says we've given up on Alves and are after Trabelsi from Ajax instead)

5. Johan Cruyff Edit: that was off the top of my head - forgot he didn't go to Argentina 78...

Well that's what I thought, but I don't life in the UK so I've no idea and a quick glance at the HSBC website turned up something like 5.2%. Also, the higher the interest rate the more of the extra capacity goes to repayment, so I thought I'd err on the side of weakening my argument. On a side issue: I don't even think you could put the stadium up as security for a loan - after all, it's not like a bank could just sell it to someone else in case you do default on the loan. The most they'll accept is the land value of the site, and as far as I know, land values in the Anfield area are somewhat lower than 'round Ashburton Grove...

Let's assume for a moment we did take out a loan to finance the stadium. Originally I think costs were estimated at about 120 million. Given this and an interest rate of 5%, we'd be paying at least 6 million a year in interest. In other words, we'd need to sell an extra 200'000 tickets at £30 each just to cover the interest. That's about half the extra capacity gone before we've started on repayments, let alone extra money to be put into Rafa's transfer/wage kitty.

As far as sharing is concerned: it may come down to either sharing or staying. I can see where the club's answer to this question may well be different to the fans... As far as Arsenal are concerned: didn't they get a decent chunk of the cost of the new stadium by selling off the Highbury site for development? If they did, it must've made life a hell of a lot easier for them.

Why are you asking Didi whether he was a correct creditor?

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I don't normally do these but I feel real sorry for Cissé so I thought I'd make an effort. However, the best effort I could make would not be a patch on what Case said, so I'll just second that.

Debatable maybe, laughable certainly not - he really did shake the Kop on that one occasion. I also thought Carra's crack about Mellor's injury trouble was a bit out of order, but that is of course just my opinion.