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I agree it allows him to be further forward when attacks start, but it certainly doesn't allow him to go forward more. Gerrard's best asset is his running from deep, be it on or off the ball. He doesn't need a high starting point, he needs freedom to burst forward. Mascherano is more mobile than Xabi so better able to cover the space that Stevie leaves in making these runs. Incidentally, Mascherano might be better in this respect but that's not to say Xabi's poor at it. The reason I've gone with Alonso and Gerrard is because anything lost by Gerrard not having quite as much freedom to burst forward at will is more than made up for by having better ball retention and the ability to play a more considered game when necessary.

It was poorly worded but I know what he's getting at. Taking all consideration of the rest of the team out of the equation, which partnership is the best? Not the best for our team, not the best against a certain team, just the the most capable of itself. Obviously a lot of people haven't voted on that basis now, but if anyone did and excluded Gerrard then they are mental. Mascherano and Xabi is a decent combo but lacks goals, and more importantly Gerrard is a cut above either of them making this one a non-starter. So it's either Mascherano or Xabi with Stevie. You could argue that playing Mascherano with Stevie instead of Xabi would allow Gerrard more freedom to do what he does best, which is a fair point. However, Xabi's ability to dictate the flow of a game is a huge bonus and the pairing still has a decent balance because he wins plenty of ball even if he doesn't have quite the same stopping power as Mash.

Hypocracy, n. -Government by those with low blood sugar levels.

Cardiff tix have got to be collected for L1-L40 postcodes, unless something's changed...? Click

He's not a centre forward either. Heard his old man was a goodun mind.

Yeah I'd say he's as better as him

It's on, no?

It's not like the two things are mutually exclusive is it? Do both.

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11 - Spain 10 - Italy, England 6 - Germany, Netherlands

LOL that is the exact thing I thought of when I saw it. Except for the bit about Anny Rd

We beat Istanbul to clinch our twelfty-first FIFA league title.

LOL You f****** had me there then too

Not 100% sure but apparently, like Paletta, he holds an EU Passport as well as Argie.

Strange thing is I'm only 23, have never seen it on telly, but somehow I've known the tune for ages. Found a youtube of it... Clicky

Can't remember what programme the tune's off but it's some really old kids TV prog. It used to be 'la la la, la la la la etc.' in a really high pitched voice So it's.... "Mo Momo, Mo Sissoko, Mo Momo Momo Sissoko"

Don't forget your anti-bread-knife vests

Big respect to whoever was in 202 they managed to have the Rafa/Xabi/Garcia/Reina song going for the best part of an hour!

Clicky The complete book only costs £245

An unskilled big lazy c*** then?

The bit you quoted off me, that did happen: Munich songs -> Your fans disgusted -> Hillsborough songs My point is both sets of fans have been hypocrites in the way the whole thing developed, not just would be hypocrites given a reversal of circumstances. Fair enough though I agree with almost all of what you say, even if you do slip back into tribalist mode occasionally (don't we all, being human?). That last point of yours is the crux of this IMO, there is no moral high ground for any club here.

Gonna be a tough one, they are just so f****** organised and committed. I agree if we don't come away with the 3 points then the doom-mongers will be out in force.

But then I could point out that it is just as ironic that your fans have been disgusted at how they were subjected to those kind of songs in the past yet still decided it was ok to sing their own songs glorifying the death of opposition fans. It works both ways. Talk of the shoe being on the other foot, if our histories re Munich/Heysel/Hillsborough had been reversed then our roles in all this would've been reversed too - it's time for people of both clubs to realise this s*** doesn't happen because of some inherent problem in either club. It's just because there are some serious c**** within society in general and in crowd situations their c***ery is more readily accepted and takes a foothold. It is circumstances that have seen all this prosper. The only way we will stamp it out is if we don't sing these songs no matter what the provocation - there are plenty of reasons but there is NO justification. Anything less than that acts to bring shame on our club and on football fans in general.

I stopped taking it seriously at 'hopelessly out of their depth at Chelsea' Obviously it's written by just one of the many d****eads who write about us having never seen half the f****** games. So easy for them to just have a pop at any and everything they can think of. Completely uninsightful.