if you dont give the manager money (chelsea, man u) or the manager time and job security (Arsenal) you will probably find yourself in the position we are in. Martin Jol is not a bad manager but look what happens if the hierachy of the club start undermining the authority of the manager. Kuyt, Bellamy, Pennant and Crouch to some extent are players we had to buy to make do. Until we can compete at the top end of the market we will never compete at the top of the league. End of