CaptainXabi

Yeah, that's how I feel too. I think he deserves being at Newcastle, but silence probably would have hurt more, I think.

Completely agree. He must get tired of the barrage of shots he faces every game though.

Murphy walks at the Valley. 2nd yellow for dissent I guess. Bennett is an incompetent referee, btw.

Reyes has really taken it upon himself to get something started for Arsenal in the 2nd half. Impressive from him since he normally wilts when the going gets tough. 1-0 to the Arsenal.

Drogba did touch the keeper, though I'm not saying that it was enough to cause all the roling around and moaning, but he was touched. Plus it serves Drogba right for always mouthing off to the referee at every decision, which is how he got the first booking if I remember correctly. Nothing annoys me about Chelsea more than that, the way 6 of their players surround the referee at every decision, with the worst offenders being Makalele and Drogba and Duff. And yes, I know all teams do that to the referee, but not as often and not as boisterously as Chelsea.

he scored from a penalty. Posts merged: Crouch and Morientes are going to have a field day if/when we make it to the final - these guys can't defend crosses at all. As I was typing that Sao Paolo missed having an own goal by a foot. Posts merged: And as I was typing that Al Ittihad score. 3-2 to Sao Paolo. Posts merged: Lugano with a proper Uruguayan hardman challenge there. Nice and cynical on Kallon. Sign him! Also, Rafa's there! They just showed him.

I can't really remember the last midfielder that wasn't Didi's bitch in a big game.

Talk about shoot on sight. As a "world-class" player, he should know when he's misfiring and not waste every decent buildup his team has with a 40 yard blast into the stands. Fair enough having a go if you're putting them consistently on target, but after the 15th shot, he could have laid off it a bit.

I am not quite sure it works that way. I think an 8 Million bid is an 8 Million bid. The debt will probably be kept seperate until actual money-exchanging goes on.

Now that's interesting. I'd never thought of it that way, especially since he said he had talked 3 or 4 Prem clubs and it was strongly suggest one was United. That's a good tidbit though, thanks for the info. Still though, it can't all be Parry's fault and I believe Michael could have told Newcastle to just forget about the idea.

That's a very good point and I totally agree with that. It was absolutely his choice to make, he made it and it didn't turn out great for him, but he still proved himself in many ways. However, doesn't mean LFC owe him the chance to fix it all. When you're at a restaurant, you get to eat. When you leave, they don't owe you a steak (TM Chris Rock). Not that we should make life difficult for Owen, but he has to be willling to go the extra mile to make it happen as well. It can't all be on Parry to whip out the cash, offload any players in the way, and carry him back to Anfield

Last minute - in early July? What about the fact his agent conveniently went on his honeymoon right after the CL final. If Parry had walked up with a new contract on May 26th, you'd probably say he was putting too much pressure on Gerrard and he should just let Gerrard and enjoy the moment. I'm not buying the Stevie not feeling wanted routine at all. This is getting off topic though. I'm just trying to sayign I doubt this Owen saga is all Rick Parry's fault.

I'm not Rick Parry's biggest cheerleader, but I thikn the Gerrard saga was mostly Stevie's fault. How can Rick Parry be at fault for Stevie not feeling wanted just because he didn't get a new contract within 30 seconds of returning from holiday, especially after pissing about for a year. Sorry, but Rick's not to blame for that one as far as I know. Now that said, I'm totally in agreement he's often quite inept.

Good point.

So then you're saying the move's not about returning to Liverpool, it's purely about getting playing time as soon as possible at the most attractive club on offer?

The money angle just seems strange to me - just doesn't add up. Let's say we're waiting to progress in the CL and get that cash before buying Owen. Surely we could just go into (more) debt temporarily to get him back. Presumably Owen would increase our chances of getting in the knockout stages anyway, so it would be a worthwhile calculated risk. If Moores, Parry, Rafa, Stevie, Carra, and Rafa's secretary are all so keen on bringing him back, I'd assume the gamble would be taken - of course it could still happen. Even so, why would sitting for half a season be so bad? Surely it would be worth it to return back home to LFC for the rest of your career. He's going to get picked for England regardless because it's just how Sven operates. I read this as Owen playing hardball to force the deal to happen this window, which wouldn't be very nice. But I suppose he's just very desperate to move as soon as possible.

The Guv: Critical error son. You knew that post would get you in trouble. for the sake of the forum, please just post: "Yay! Michael Owen!!!! " The Guv's post was clearly over the top, but some of the responses have been out of order. Oh well, I hope he heeds my instruction so he can fit in better in the future.

I'm still in shock that he was mentioned as a possible solution.

I'm not saying we shouldn't sign Owen because of that. I just got bored of parsing and re-parsing today's statements and wanted to look to the future. It's more of a tactical problem than a literal personnel problem.

Well that ends that.

Assuming you play a back 4, a LW and a RW, and Michael Owen isn't a lone striker, there are only 2 positions left on the field.

Let's say we sign Owen. We're playing Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Who do we drop - Owen, Gerrard, Alonso, or Sissoko? I'm not trying to go against the tide here (I just want the whole thing to be over soon), just curious as to what people will respond.

The error by Rafa part was general, not necessarily aimed at you. I may or may not have entered rant mode towards the end . But in response to the rest of your post, I'll ask a few questions - Were we so good in front of goal with Michael Owen? Note we = Liverpool football club - i.e. the whole team, not Michael Owen himself. - Could the poor form in front of goal have anything to do with us not having enough fit strikers? - Is it possible that recent events are unduly influencing opinions on our current crop of strikers?

Great, that's RM settled then... He's not better than what we've got up front. Unless we're signing him to make a profit.

Are we sure he's not just another La Liga pansy?