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still awaiting tickets from LFC in the post. anyone else get theirs or am I just getting worried for n reason. Qualified in the first sale so its nearly 5 days of waiting

More like tell the press nothing until deals are done

Why suddenly quote wages, All this negative s***. We have saved a fortune on wages this year moving players out, are you including that in your net spend as well. No, that does not fit the glass half empty mentality Net spend is + 1.5m give or take a little. Seeing as we had 20-25m to spend we should expect at least 2 more players to come in

Can people not understand, if the players agent won't play ball you struggle to make progress. The agent acts on the players behalf. Maybe the rumours he wanted to come were false.

To be honest, would rather sort out the Centre half issues. We have enough up top if Luis stays.

The manager was given a budget, spent it on Borini and Allen. Then tried to sell some players to get in forwards. Think he needs to look at himself as well as Ayre and the owners. In life nothing is guaranteed, Allow Caroll to leave when replacement signs. Looks like Chelsea did that to us with Sturridge. Maybe Ayre messed up big time, we will never know. To say Rodgers was misled is a big leap into the dark. Where was he on deadline day, should have been at the heart of the negotiations pushing through a deal or even better concluded the deal weeks ago before Allen. We were overloaded with midfielders (possibly not the quality we want), it was up front where we struggled last year and will this year. Young manager, will learn from this, naive to say the least. Move on and stop the blame culture.

Manager has 25+ games to sort out this mess. needs to identify 5 forwards for Jan and sign at least 2. If true that Fulham were never going to sell Dempsey to us and kept pushing up the price, then I'm happy we backed away from the deal. If its a case of we could only offer 3m, then I'm disgusted and the owners need to ship out. Suarez and Borini + kids need to stay fit and pop in a few goals. Midfield and defence are solid, we just need to strengthen up front. Could be a rocky 4 months. If everyone can stay fit and the new lads settle in we could just about survive. Massive let down yesterday, however the reasons are not known and may never come out.

We need to add quality not quantity. Keeper and back 4 good enough. Midfield needs more pace and a playmaker. If we could combine this into 1 player would be great. Up front we need quality centre forward to support two we have Reina Johnson, Skrtel , Agger, Enrique Gerrard, Lucas, ? or Downing ? , Carroll, Suarez Squad Doni Robinson, kelly, Flanagan, Coates, Wisdom Henderson, Adam, Shelvey, Sterling, Coady Bellamy Sell or phase out Jones, Gulacsi Carra, Aurelio Spearing, Maxi, Cole, Aquilani Kuyt No more loans, If no buyer they stay We need squad cover up front, not sure anyone in the reserves ready to move up so may have to buy. Hoilett from Blackburn or even Dempsey may be good for the squad.

Spearing messed up for both goals. 1st would not happen if he made decent contact with the ball, he left us wide open at the back. 2nd he was turned like a schoolboy by Lampard. Carroll should have been on from the start, only 1 recognised centre half for them and he looked afraid of Carroll when he came on. It was a goal and 9 times out of ten it would have been given, game over then as they had gone at that point. We move on and get over it, we need 2 attacking players for next season, 1 to work form midfield and one up front. Message to Kenny, play 2 up front, Suarez is not a target man and looks better playing off Carroll.

Am i right in reading you have to have 5 credits to enter the ballot. Season ticket holders with only 4 are not mentioned yet

I miss out due to not going the Oldham game. My own fault I never signed up for the Auto Cup Scheme and worked that Friday night. Can only blame myself for that stupid decision last June. Season ticket holder for as long as I can remember, Never missed a Cup Final. Its the only fair way the club can do it with so few tickets. Anyone need a cheap hotel near Heathrow. Direct line into London from Beaconsfield. We had 2 rooms booked for Sat night, I think £40 each (sleeps 3)

How about a new twist on a well used song They just care about money They don't care about fans English football is in the wrong hands At least 3 groups of fans that weekend think the above

Just my take on the Club statement and Suarez statement. Having read the panel document we fully expected some press support to the many inconsistencies within the report. The press seem to have followed to FA line and condemned Luis. Once they all stuck together it became difficult not to back down. Thus we issue a statement supporting Luis but accepting the ban. I think it was the best we could hope for, if we had gone to appeal we would have had months of bad publicity and the same result. If only some of the press pack had read the report and been willing to go against the pack. FA are corrupt, Press love Man Ure. I would love to defend this case in a law Court, FA and Evra would be laughed out of court.

Spent a few hours reading the report and thought i would add my observations having spent a little time in various court rooms. Numerous video clips viewed which do not show Luis using the N work 5, 7 or 10 times. No video footage helps to show what was said by Luis. Evra starts the confrontation with an offensive remark and during a heated argument threatens to punch or kick Luis (depending who you believe). Luis admitted using the word Negro once but not in an Offensive manner I think we have to accept that Luis grabbed Evra by the arm and head to wind him up (It is a mans game after all) Evra pushed Dirk twice (I think) getting booked the 2nd time. Evra says he told the Ref he had been abused by Luis but the Ref did nothing and does not mention it in his report to the FA. Why did Evra not repeat the allegation and use the N work instead of "Black" to describe the incident, It does not make sense. Even Giggs told him to get on with the game so puts into doubt the fact he even mentioned it. Dirk gives evidence to say he heard Evra say he was getting booked because he was Black, Panel dismiss this as untrue, WHY Panel seem to put a lot of weight behind the fact Luis accepted the evidence of Valencia, Hernandez and Fergie. He could not contest it as he did not hear it, does not mean it was the true. Fergie, Nani and the Ref said Evra used the N word. this is inconsistent with his Statement given to the FA. WHY Evra told Canal+ the he was abused at least 10 time, Panel except this is a figure of speech and not another inconsistency by Evra. WHY Expert witnesses were used to explain what was said as reported by both Luis and Evra. Not sure much can be taken from this as we cannot prove what Luis said other than what has been admitted. However they did say if Evra's account was excepted it was offensive but did not make sense, If Luis was believed it was not Offensive and made sense Linguistically. Again Panel do not believe this weakens Evra's evidence. WHY The panel make several conclusions based on oral and written evidence as follows Praise was given to Evra by the panel for admitting to a comment that reflected badly on him, the opening insult he made about C**T. No praise given to Luis about admitting to a comment that could look badly on him. Does this show bias by the panel. Suarez was hostile towards Evra, no mention that Evra was hostile 1st and that Evra started the confrontation with an abusive outburst that would explain the reaction from Luis. The panel seem to base the whole decision on inconsistencies in written and oral evidence. They are dealing with Spanish, French, English, Dutch and even Scottish translations. A reasonable person would accept slight differences in recalling an incident that took place during and after a match. The panel seem to ignore anything that discredits the evidence given by Evra but make huge significance to anything by Luis, Comolli and Dalglish. Was what Luis said meant in a conciliatory or friendly way, we will never know as only Luis knows. Would the CPS charge on the basis of 1 word against the other, I doubt it very much. Why has Evra never been investigated for his part in the whole incident. Bottom line is, he gets on with the game and none of this takes place. Have they taken into account the previous malicious allegations made by Evra. Was he winding up Luis, YES, did Luis wind him up, YES. Is Luis a racist, NO. FA are corrupt

One disallowed against Sunderland, One great save against Arsenal. He could and should be on at least 1 league goal maybe 2. He is great at holding up the ball and bringing others into the game. His game is all about strength and balls into the box. Do some forget we have 5 or 6 new players (if you include Suarez and Carroll) in the team and it will take a little time. Give it time and play to his strengths, he will create havoc once we get going and possibly Suarez will love the space he creates.

Carra came onto the pitch at the end. Not sure if any long term problems but he seemed to be happy with the result. Walked on behind Arsene as he was having a go at the Ref

Carra Pen ! how many on here have ever played sport of any kind. try running with your arms at your side. Carra made no attempt to block the ball, his arms were not above his head. Would have been a harsh Pen if given. How negative are some on here, 2 weeks back yes, but 6 points in 2 weeks. out of the bottom 3 and at least playing some good football. Bolton are a decent / physical team and we competed, appears harder this year to win away in the Prem. Anyone else think we look much better with Gerrard back in midfield and Ngog up front ot help Nando.

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Carra handball would have been harsh Pen. Push in the box was 50/50, think it was Davies (most physical centre forward in the league) who went down like a girl. Overall good result away from Home against a physical team. Gerrard and Torres not at their best but we won Onwards ans upwards, good result midweek and may even look forward to the Chelsea game. Was only saying yesterday it seems to be getting harder to win away in the League. That result will build confidence as we move up the table and a clean sheet.

Do some not understand we needed a left back and centre forward. Might not be your or my first choice, but whoever we sign will be better than noone. Poulson has looked off the pace should improve with games. Knonchesky is a decent premiership left back, not world class but solid (what we need prior to takeover) and Insua was on his way out before Roy arrived. Jones is 2nd choice for a keeper who wanted to leave, who did you expect us to sign. Cole is decent and again 2nd choice behid Torres, beter than what we had and at least we are not buying untested players like Aqua and Cisse who may not fit in to life in the Prem. Again what did you expect, my calculations have us 12 million in credit on transfer dealings, before Babel for Cole give or take a million. So where are the transfer funds we were promised + sales, or is a case of Roy wanting to see what he has before he buys in Jan.

I understand the current protest against the owners, however i have been going the match for over 40+yrs, I support LFC. Not the owners. If anyone can give me a good reason to stop the support of MY club then I will consider it. Every club is fleeced by the owners, I dont know of many who have sold a club at a great loss to themselves. Yes i hate these idiots in charge at present, I blame them for the loss of a good manager and the decline of the team over the last few years. I know they are taking /making money out of the club and stand to make a huge profit when they sell. Again which club have an owner who is not interested in making money, only Chelsea spring to mind, too earlt to tell with City. We get new owners and they will look to make money, even Moores made money when he sold. Not sure if me giving up my season ticket will have a great effect, someone will take it on and then I suffer for years once they have sold up and moved on. I for 1 will be renewing my season ticket, However my hatred of the idiots in charge will last well after they leave.

I think it was the leader of Liverpool Council on 5 Live and he said they had to present details of each city bid yesterday in London. He went on to say LFC confirmed the stadium will be built and soon. Decision at 3pm today and if LFC is awarded a place then looks like the club were believed and the stadium goes ahead.

Don't play Lucas and Masch in the same team, they do the same job and never look forward. Drop Gerrard into midfield to give us some drive and put Benayoun in behind Torres until Aquilani is fit. We need a dominant cente half and a ball player. Carra is a great defender but has no idea when given time to play the ball out. Agger can fill one of these spots not sure who can be the other. Alonso was great last year, anyone remember the season before. He was average and many would have been happy to see him leave for Barry. It didn't work out and he's gone anyway. Get over it and move on. We have lost one quality player and we were never a one man team. we have enough to push for the title, just need to get a bit of confidence and a few breaks. Fluke 1st goal against Spurs, deflected 1st goal last night and stupid penalty. Learn from this and move on.

My local MP and have met him a few times through work. Talks about football as much as politics, Even turned out for a charity football match last month. Having watched the footage from the service i think he understands the frustration as he was nodding in agreement as the Justice shouts went round the stadium. Seems like he has followed up his words with positive actions and things have moved pretty quickly. Respect for a politician, now thats something not happened much of late.

Does the sentence not depend of being found guilty to start with ! From experience.... I would suggest some sort of plea bargaining, could plead guilty to a lesser offence or just go for the trial and stick with his not guilty plea. Looks like the prosecution case falling apart, I would go with my original plea and let them prove it. Could be the lad who has injured has withdrawn his evidence and just leaves the public order.