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this total scum says the following on his show "I wanna get this joke correct. What is the difference between a cow and a tragedy? Liverpool fans could only milk the cow for so long. *silence* <lots of bulls*** from him> ...Heres the thing, not only is this a tradgedy (speaking about liverpool wanting to avoid playing on hillsboroughs 20th anniversary), its a tradegy OF THEIR OWN DOING! They have done brilliantly with the heysels and the hillsboroughs, they have taken events that they are solely or mostly responsible for and have somehow turned the world on its head and made themselves the victims - certainly in my eyes" download it on itunes, World Soccer Daily podcasts from feb 20th. There are 2 listed for that day, download the one titled 'Steven and Kenny are joined in the first hour'. If you dont have an ipod you can download it to your computer. At 4 minutes 45 seconds be prepared to be shocked. This is on daytime national radio by the way. Listen and take it all in. Use it as a positive energy to remove this [oops] from the airwaves

.....is so good that..... nah, cant start that again..

apologies if printed before folks: http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-spor...ly-1234757.html No hugs, no learning as Rafa's critics miss the point completely By Dion Fanning Sunday December 02 2007 Perhaps it was the idea that Rick Parry was in charge of transfers that finally sent Rafael Benitez mad. Under the old owner of the club, that was how the system worked: Benitez and his scouts found the players and Parry was sent out to sign them. Soon they could be seen at new clubs, but often that new club was not Liverpool. Some of Europe's most promising players -- Nemanja Vidic, Daniel Alves -- were scouted by Benitez and when Parry was sent out to get them, the players had gone elsewhere or a deal could not be struck. So when it was proposed to Benitez that Parry deal with this business again, it's no surprise he began letting himself go, dressing in tracksuits and merely "coaching and training" his team. Last Wednesday, Fernando Torres became the latest Benitez signing to show that the manager had spent Liverpool's money cleverly. Yet the idea persists that he has somehow continued the disastrous transfer policy of his predecessor. Gerard Houllier signed bad players and they stuck around. He may have moved Rigobert Song and Titi Camara down to Harry Redknapp at West Ham pretty quickly, but most of his signings arrived for baffling amounts and were usually at the core of the team for many years. Benitez was plagued by many of these players when he arrived and only recently put an end to his desperate misery with Djibril Cisse. Many will have noted that Marseille started losing again at almost exactly the same time that Cisse regained his place in the side, but he may not be finished with Benitez yet. The Liverpool manager surely thought those long hours trying to explain the offside rule to Gerard Houllier's record signing were as tiresome as it gets, but it might get worse. If Cisse knocks Liverpool out of the Champions' League in ten days' time, he will -- through transfer fee and loss of earnings -- have individually inflicted the kind of financial damage on an institution not seen since Nick Leeson went on tilt in Singapore. In contrast, Benitez has rarely lost money on a player and, if he was allowed to do his job, would make a profit on Peter Crouch, Momo Sissoko and Scott Carson in January. Of course, when he signed Torres it was claimed that he was not the answer to Liverpool's goalscoring problem. His ratio, the critics said, was a goal every three games and Benitez had taken an unnecessary gamble. Benitez paid less than 20 million on Torres, a lot of money but less than the £26m (€36m) quoted. Spurs spent the same on Darren Bent, but is Benitez praised for signing a player Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger dithered over? No, he is criticised for something else. Torres has scored ten goals from 12 starts this season, so instead there is a different complaint. Now the critics (including, unsurprisingly, Andy Gray) snipe that Benitez doesn't play him enough. In fact, Torres has started all but two games in all competitions (excluding the European qualifiers) this season when he's been fit. Gray is an inconsistent critic of rotation. When Alex Ferguson's rotation policy let him down at Bolton last Saturday, Gray refused to criticise the fearsome Ferguson for resting Cristiano Ronaldo. United had enough good players without Ronaldo to beat Bolton, Gray insisted. Well, they didn't. But Hicks and Gillett seem to have listened to the loudest voices, to Gray and his shrill inaccuracies (on Wednesday he remarked that Peter Crouch hadn't "had a sniff" of a starting place since he scored against Besiktas. In fact, he started the next game and was given a big sniff but failed to score). Some have interpreted the Hicks-Gillett ultimatum as a sign that they are not prepared to spend money on Benitez targets when they have lost faith in him. But this is to view them as football men and there is no evidence that they are. Tom Hicks, certainly, is no football man; he is Liverpool's Donald Rumsfeld, a football neocon, a friend of Dubya's, with a Rumsfeldian interest in control freakery. Rumsfeld interfered in every decision made below him during the planning and invasion of Iraq and look how well that worked out. Hicks is doing the same at Liverpool; a good ole boy who likes to get his way. But on Wednesday night, Liverpool supporters illustrated the differences between football in the north of England and the sporting franchises owned by Hicks and Gillett. What they can sell at an ice-rink in Abilene won't wash in front of 45,000 raving lunatics maddened by the latest gnomic statements from the headquarters of corporate hokum in Texarkana. The people marched for Benitez on Wednesday and they could have rallied round three words that distinguish Benitez from his bosses, the words that Norman Mailer used when he ran for Mayor of New York -- No More Bulls***. A colleague was in a press room of an English ground last Sunday when the draw was made for the 2010 World Cup. As the men in Durban prepared to draw the top seed for England's group, there was much anxiety thousands of miles away. They would have to avoid Italy; probably Germany too, was the downbeat consensus. When Croatia were pulled from the hat, the mood transformed. "That's all right," one exclaimed, "we can beat them." At this moment, a seasoned journalist is said to have put his head in his hands. Later a Sky reporter would refer to the teams in England's group as "beatable" and the following day Michael Owen announced that no Croatian player would get in the England team. "No hugging, no learning," was Larry David's philosophy as he shaped Seinfeld into the greatest TV comedy of all time. It is a credo English football seems determined to adopt with equally hilarious consequences. - Dion Fanning

Fernando Torres is so good that even the queen wants to dust herself down and sleep with him instead of a consignment of german sausages...

that the team

seem to recall seeing photos of giggs then girlfriend spouting a black eye due to his "professionalism".....

i lived in melb for a few months - the casino doesnt show the footy but the two places worth checking are the celtic club on queen st and the charles dickins on collins st. tho do a search for the melb liverpool supporters club (who usually meet at the celtic club) and their website may be able to help... god i miss melb.... (aoart from the early LFC starts)

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I cant PM downunder - is been turned off or something ive missed? Could drop me a mail or vice versa - hopefully in oz by xmas then hangin about there for a while so much advice and idea appreciated! Kev

cheers for the advice folks, all been duly noted(inc the comments about being more country folk than in your own countries...) tho I'm not one to talk, us bloody irish are everywhere - in fact if you brought everyone back to ireland it'd look like one of those icebergs you see on the nature program with all the penguins hanging on to it for dear life... but dont get me on a rant on these so called irish bars you see everywhere - irish my a***! ive heard bangkok is mental in places alright - tho from a liverpool fan point of view its good to know the whole place is footy mad as we obviously want to get to the beaches/the north (chang mai) etc...

yeah we'll be backpacking but as its relatively cheap out there will try the odd day or two in luxury (before cambodia/vietnam/oz/NZ/etc) - will defo take a look at ko sarn - all these places better have the matches on telly or else will have to detour!

cheers thanks for that - have noted it down for when we land. You confused me by mentioning islands - unless that place you mentioned isnt bangkok? regardless, will be trying all voer thailand over the next month so anywhere is helpful!

headin off in under 2 weeks round the world and landing in bangkok on night of bordeaux game - any of you guys know where is good to watch the match or is it readily available over there in most bars...?

I also would like to say its great to openly see bellamys passion and its great we have whingers in the team - all the champions in the prev years have players who try to intimidate officials...

ask him can he explain why sheep are heavy when they're wet and does he know the meaning of the phrase "never rub another mans rhubarb" as said by the joker in the original batman movie....

bizzarely i came home hammered last night after failing to score and stuck that match on again (for about the hundredth time) - isnt it great to have as a "pick me up"? get in there! (still hammered, liverpool top on and waiting for the match....)

and theyve now just said we'll hear from robbie after the break...